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There is a very simple explanation for why the alloys are so mysterious. Harry Reid was able to get the program funded, and directed most of the $22M in spendi
by valuearb 9y ago
There is a very simple explanation for why the alloys are so mysterious.
Harry Reid was able to get the program funded, and directed most of the $22M in spending to one of his closest backers, Robert Bigelow so he could build a fancy warehouse. If that fancy warehouse wasn't storing super valuable alien artifacts it just looks like Reid filling the pockets of a close friend with government monies, and people might think Bigelow might be laundering that money to pay back to Reid after his retirement.
Since both of these upstanding citizens are known to have such high ethics that can't be possible, clearly the warehouse was full of priceless alien stuff. We can scientifically examine these alloys right now, except Reid agreed to cancel the program, because of deficits? or Harry's retirement accounts were fully funded.
But we also have an esteemed government director who can corroborate all of this, Luis Elizondo. He has no reason to make up sensationalistic stories, he's too busy helping Tom Delonge convince backers to fund the "To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science" to research alien stuff, and which supposedly is contractually obligated to pay Tom $100,000 a year once funded. What it's going to pay Luis is no-ones business.
Yep, completely on the level. Can't understand why these scientists are so skeptical.
- reaperducer 9y agoWhile I don't doubt that Harry Reid is as corrupt a politician and as expert at funneling money to his cronies as, say, the late Robert Byrd was; there are A LOT easier and quieter ways of making it happen. Especially for a sum as small as $22 million. Even county-level politicians can make that amount of money disappear without a trace and without leaving behind a warehouse and a paper trail. To play the other side: What we have in the linked article is a couple of people who have never seen the objects in question stating categorically that they don't exist, or are ordinary. I'd believe the skeptics more if they'd at least seen the objects. But it's just a couple of guys several thousand miles away second-guessing some other guys with actual access to the objects. Thanks, for the clickbait, SI. Next...
- titzer 9y agoI dunno, I read the article and the "guy a thousand miles away" gave pretty damn good reasoning why it'd be short work to identify and categorize "alien alloys". Or do you have an actual argument as to why these materials couldn't be readily identified and studied by competent physicists using well known technology?
- byebyetech 9y agoWould a material composed using highly advanced nanotechnology have strange properties purely due to its structure? Does it have to be an alloy?
- QAPereo 9y agoThat’s the issue, which really comes down to the word “Alloy” in this case. If you believe there’s a chance that the word alloy was used instead of a more accurate and technical term, then your points definitely stand. If they really meant alloy though? I’d tend to side it’s the article. I mean you can imagine some strange and exotic materials maintained by some kind of alien power source, but lose the power and the material should decay in some fashion. For a purely fictional example see things like degenerate matter held in some kind of sci-fi stasis.
- ridgeguy 9y agoYes, and it doesn't have to be an alloy. Structure is the basis for 'invisibility cloaks', materials with small-scale structures which confer optical properties not found in the same unstructured bulk materials. [1] Another example of where structure confers strange properties on elements (not alloys) is light emission from indirect-gap materials like silicon. Make silicon particles small enough and you can get light emission that you can't from bulk silicon. See quantum dots [2] and other similar structures. Structure can really change things. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamaterial_cloaking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamaterial_cloaking [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_dot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_dot
- ajross 9y ago> I'd believe the skeptics more if they'd at least seen the objects. So your standard for proof is that someone said A but provided no proof, yet those who are skeptical about A's truth aren't to be trusted because they... Weren't provided proof to refute?!
- daodedickinson 9y agoThere's much discussion about To The Stars between the Blink-182 frontman and John Podesta in the emails leaked by Wikileaks. If their interest isn't genuine, I can only imagine they're working for / are aliens. Podesta got his start in politics by trying to get the US gov to cough up everything it knew about UFOs.
- Scipio_Afri 9y agoWow you're good at connecting dots. I bet you were good at those numbered dot puzzles as a kid.
- mustacheemperor 9y agoThat's the only explanation you can imagine for why a rock musician and a ufo geek might have emailed each other about the ufo program?
- anigbrowl 9y agoThat makes for a great story until you consider the fact that bigelow is rich and $22 million is small change to the billionaire set that Reid has had on speed dial for years. Enormously elaborate schemes to launder relatively small amounts of money are only plausible to people who think $22 million is a vast fortune.
- hyperbovine 9y agoThat's the difference between billionaires and you and me: the billionaire thinks $22m is a lot of money.
- QAPereo 9y agoWorth risking prison over? That sounds like a gambler who loses, not someone who managed to amass and retain wealth.
- joering2 9y agoHarry Greed is best at his game and has many years to prove it. Little people get away with little crimes here and there, a big fish like Reed knows what he's doing. Same goes for even bigger fish like Clinton. $300 millions thru foundation happen to be founded by pure luck exactly in the time she was helping them score business deals. Its a very careful game but they know what they doing!
- QAPereo 9y agoThats a great story, thanks. Edit: /s for clarity
- coldtea 9y agoConsidering billionaires who pay such money just for a year's worth of transportation or a single party or wedding reception, you'd be surprised... Or you're probably thinking of Scrooge McDuck
- ghostbrainalpha 9y agoJust think about what you are saying. Even if you don't like Reid, you should know he didn't get to where he is by being an idiot. Does it make sense to make your most SHADY kickback deal based on Aliens??? Something that will get TONS of press coverage even with nothing fraudulent going on. If Reid was looking for a quid-pro-quo, he would be working with the Mega Resorts on the strip (MGM, Caesars, and even Republican Steve Wynn). His decisions could massively benefit them, and sitting as an honorary member of their board could be profitable. When you go to rob the bank you drive the easiest to forget, most common looking, plain colored mid-sized sedan. You don't drive an Ice Cream Truck blasting death metal.
- marshray 9y ago> Does it make sense to make your most SHADY kickback deal based on Aliens? Oh I can just see it now. "Don't tell a soul, it's off the books. This is..." The Senator looked around nervously and began to whisper, "top secret alien technology we're dealing with here."
- greggarious 9y ago>If Reid was looking for a quid-pro-quo, he would be working with the Mega Resorts on the strip (MGM, Caesars, and even Republican Steve Wynn). His decisions could massively benefit them, and sitting as an honorary member of their board could be profitable. Are honorary board members paid?
- DonHopkins 9y agoNo, but they do tend to win a lot of jackpots in the slot machines.
- gonzo 9y agoThis would get Reid in trouble with his Mormon bishop and constituency.
- greggarious 9y ago>>Are honorary board members paid? > No, but they do tend to win a lot of jackpots in the slot machines. Slot machines are highly regulated in Nevada, I seriously doubt that's a realistic scenario.
- jccooper 9y agoExcept Bigelow is a well known alien crank. Occam's Razor suggests that it's a politician throwing a rich guy a bone for his pet fantasy (with taxpayer money, of course, though it's really the recognition rather than the money that matters here), expecting more personal support later.
- rob49343234 9y agocontractually obligated to pay Tom $100,000 a year A junior developer's salary to a guy who's sold millions of records. There's a lot to criticize here but I don't think that's one of them
- rowdown 9y agoI understand your sentiment but there's more going on here. It seems to be a Pentagon PR push. Some of people involved with Tom are legitimate.