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Elon Musk's Tesla Roadster mounted on Falcon Heavy Payload Adapter
- shaki-dora 9y agoAs always, Matt Levine said it best: I'm not sure I agree that he "isn't joking": Just because you actually do it, that doesn't mean it's not a joke. (Perhaps it's a "prank.") If you are rich enough, you can joke about sending a car in a rocket to Mars by actually sending a car in a rocket to Mars, which makes it funnier. (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-12-04/bank-backups-and-space-bitcoins https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-12-04/bank-back...)
- eggie 9y agoIt's too bad he can't joke about sending a scientific probe to Mars and then doing it.
- inventingwithmo 9y agoYet
- robryan 9y agoThe point is that first launch has no serious interest to warrant a real payload due to the higher risk of failure. If they weren't doing something fun like this they would just be loading it up with dead weight.
- phpnode 9y agoOr a wheel of cheese[0] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_COTS_Demo_Flight_1#Additional_payloads https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_COTS_Demo_Flight_1#Addi...
- eggie 9y agoYou could still do something fun and support a bunch of student science projects. They could be thrown together in a hurry, and at low cost. The risk of failure isn't a problem.
- yummybear 9y agoYou'd probably still need to certify each of these projects to ensure they can handle the vibrations, environment and otherwise wont't interfere with the test. A project with components that rattles loose at max Q and somehow prevents separation is a problem. You'd also need some kind of deployment system. I'm also fairly sure Musk has already considered doing this, and reached a conclusion that it wasn't feasible.
- detaro 9y agoNow I wonder at which stage of development a Tesla Roadster got that certification
- avian 9y agoI'm pretty sure it will be launched as an inert hunk of metal and plastic. Batteries will be removed, fluids drained, etc.
- mechatronix00 9y ago“We certified the Tesla roadster to space flight loads and dynamics” - Can’t beat that kinda of safety engineering! :)
- mechatronix00 9y agoI agree. The vibroacoustics and shock environments in a fairing are intense. He would likely have to rebuild the car from scratch to pass testing. Last thing you want is a wheel vibrating off and bouncing around in the fairing during flight. That could cause big problems with loads and/or controls.
- eggie 9y ago> I'm also fairly sure Musk has already considered doing this, and reached a conclusion that it wasn't feasible. Do you have evidence of this? Or is it just a hunch...?
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- nepotism2018 9y agoIs't that machine worth six figures? Has the world gone mad that we can't find a more productive way to have "fun"
- mattmanser 9y agoIt doesn't cost them 6 figures.
- mulletbum 9y agoPotentially did when he built it. Wasn't this the very first fully assembled one ever built?
- phpnode 9y agoThe cost of the second hand Tesla is nothing compared to the PR value of doing this.
- bob_theslob646 9y agoYou are missing the point. The point he is making is that he is actually taken some risk or putting something that is dear to him, in jeopardy.
- willvarfar 9y agoIf the mission is successful, do they recover the car? Or will it be released into orbit? And if that, will it eventually burn up?
- wcoenen 9y agoGetting to an orbit around Mars costs a lot more money and effort, because it requires the payload to have the ability to do course corrections and another orbit insertion burn when it passes very close to Mars. The second stage of the Falcon 9 doesn't have the ability to stay powered and fueled during such a long trip through deep space. I assume this stunt will just launch a dummy payload into a non-circular orbit around the sun with its distance to the sun varying between sun-earth and sun-mars distance. Like a Hohmann transfer orbit, except that it probably won't get anywhere near Mars and will just stay in that orbit indefinitely.
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- bob_theslob646 9y agoThat post was written 16 days ago. I think the joke is on reporters like Matt Levine who think that it's some sort of joke or prank. I honestly believe people perceived it as a joke because it is odd or not a normal thing to do just like allowing a stranger to pick you up and take you wherever you want to go.
- shaki-dora 9y agoI really don’t understand what you’re trying to say, except a sort of generalized hate of journalists? Because Levine very clearly expressed his expectation that Musk would, in fact, put a Tesla on a Falcon. I also doubt anyone ever thought Uber was a joke. They may have critizised it for a litany of reasons, mostly being vindicated by now. But nobody considered it a literal joke, not at least because it’s missing the funny.
- pluma 9y ago> just like allowing a stranger to pick you up and take you wherever you want to go. Oh, you mean like a taxi?
- pjc50 9y agoIt's very definitely a joke in exactly this way. Or a kind of piece of postmodern art "event", like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_Foundation_Burn_a_Million_Quid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_Foundation_Burn_a_Million_Qu...
- elmar 9y agoProbably a "kind of piece of postmodern art event" describes it the best. BTW Maybe we will have a "Burn 1 Million Bitcoin" event in the future with Satoshi Nakamoto himself burning is Bitcoins.
- sandworm101 9y agoNot a joke. A practical design choice. He didnt want any delays associated with the payload. He didnt want a "failure" should his rocket work but the payload fail. He needed a known object, something that had at least gone through the vibration testing to ensure it didnt damage the rocket on launch. And he likes being rich. So he took the oppertunity to use the launch of one product to promote another. Nothing of this is funny to him. This is business. Or he just wanted an excuse to go car shopping again.
- 6d6b73 9y agoIt's a fake.
- zaroth 9y agoThat thing inside Elon, that thing that whispered in his ear and pulled at his heart that drove him to build Tesla, SpaceX; those same exact neurons, or that karmic energy, or spirit, or demon; that insatiable lust and yearning, the ego and hubris to believe it could all even be possible; the fuck-all attitude which gave him the courage to try... [The Greeks called it “Ate” (pronounced ay-tee) ~ the point between Hubris and Nemesis.] The swirling vortex which is Elon had no choice but to strap his black cherry red Roadster onto the biggest rocket we’ve seen in a generation, and on its inaugural flight, send it to fucking Mars. God speed Elon.
- youdontknowtho 9y agoThis is a juvenile BS move that will infest another planet...one that humans have never walked on...with this rich kids car. With a rich kids car.
- 24gttghh 9y agoFirst car on another planet. (yes i know we put a buggy on the moon, but that's not a planet) Nuclear Weapons on another planet. I'd rather see the car get there first.
- YaxelPerez 9y agoI think it's just a hohmann transfer to Mars to test the booster, but they're not actually crashing the car on there.
- phpnode 9y agoWhich planet is that? This will either explode on launch or orbit the sun for a billion years before burning up
- youdontknowtho 9y agoLots of love for the rich kid on this site.
- bmcusick 9y agoLink is dead
- AlbertoGP 9y agoThe original link (to imgur.com) is dead, but this seems real: https://www.teslarati.com/image-elon-musk-tesla-roadster-spacex-payload/ https://www.teslarati.com/image-elon-musk-tesla-roadster-spa...