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Then keep your mind off MY website! You are using YOUR mind and YOUR body and YOUR time and YOUR gun when you rob a bank too.

nostromo123 9y ago
If you want people off your website, why do you make it publicly available on the net? ;-)
brucelidl 9y ago
Put it behind a pay wall if you think it has so much economic value.
- dumbfounder 9y ago
  See my other comment. I don't care if people use adblock, I just hate the argument people some use to justify it. I believe there are good arguments, but not the "it's my browser" argument. It's self righteous to the extreme.
  - brucelidl 9y ago
    I don't understand what you are saying. Can I go to the bathroom during the commercial break while watching a football game? Do I have to scroll to the bottom of a page if I look at a headline? No, of course I don't. If you demand a particular behavior from a reader, then enforce it. Otherwise, don't complain if it's ignored.
    - dumbfounder 9y ago
      They can not look at the ads on the website, or go to the bathroom too. I don't have a problem with that. I have a problem with the argument that it's "because it's mine".
  - orwin 9y ago
    When forbes infested its clients thanks to a third-party ad network that distributed malwares[1], i was smiling with shadenfreude. Maybe i'm self-righteous, but since 2005, blocking ads is for me a way to protect my computer. [1]https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160111/05574633295/forbes-site-after-begging-you-turn-off-adblocker-serves-up-steaming-pile-malware-ads.shtml https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160111/05574633295/forbe...
mistercow 9y ago
There's a lot wrong with this analogy. Right off the bat, a gun is not typically involved with legitimate banking. Fundamentally, when you rob a bank, you're coercing someone into giving you something that doesn't belong to you. When you block ads, you're taking something that was offered freely, then choosing which parts of it you want.
- dumbfounder 9y ago
  I was illustrating how bad his point is with the "it's my BLANK" argument. Just because you are using something that belongs to you doesn't mean it doesn't affect other people.
  - arkades 9y ago
    I don’t think you fully understood his point. When a website comes to your computer, and you choose to digest it in the manner you see fit, our using YOUR resources the way YOU see fit. The content creator wants you to use your resources the way THEY see fit. They ... can’t really demand that. As opposed to charging a subscription fee, in which you are aligned in wanting to use your resources in a way you both find satisfying.
    - dumbfounder 9y ago
      When the mailman comes onto MY property to deliver the mail he has other people's mail in his bag on MY walkway! I don't want that to happen because it's mine!!!!
      - arkades 9y ago
        Actually, if you place your mailbox on the perimeter of the property - as is quite common in some areas - the mailman won’t enter your property. Huh. Turns out you do have control over your property, after all.
        dumbfounder 9y ago

nostromo123 9y ago

If you want people off your website, why do you make it publicly available on the net? ;-)

brucelidl 9y ago

Put it behind a pay wall if you think it has so much economic value.

dumbfounder 9y ago
See my other comment. I don't care if people use adblock, I just hate the argument people some use to justify it. I believe there are good arguments, but not the "it's my browser" argument. It's self righteous to the extreme.
- brucelidl 9y ago
  I don't understand what you are saying. Can I go to the bathroom during the commercial break while watching a football game? Do I have to scroll to the bottom of a page if I look at a headline? No, of course I don't. If you demand a particular behavior from a reader, then enforce it. Otherwise, don't complain if it's ignored.
  - dumbfounder 9y ago
    They can not look at the ads on the website, or go to the bathroom too. I don't have a problem with that. I have a problem with the argument that it's "because it's mine".
- orwin 9y ago
  When forbes infested its clients thanks to a third-party ad network that distributed malwares[1], i was smiling with shadenfreude. Maybe i'm self-righteous, but since 2005, blocking ads is for me a way to protect my computer. [1]https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160111/05574633295/forbes-site-after-begging-you-turn-off-adblocker-serves-up-steaming-pile-malware-ads.shtml https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160111/05574633295/forbe...

mistercow 9y ago

There's a lot wrong with this analogy. Right off the bat, a gun is not typically involved with legitimate banking. Fundamentally, when you rob a bank, you're coercing someone into giving you something that doesn't belong to you. When you block ads, you're taking something that was offered freely, then choosing which parts of it you want.

dumbfounder 9y ago
I was illustrating how bad his point is with the "it's my BLANK" argument. Just because you are using something that belongs to you doesn't mean it doesn't affect other people.
- arkades 9y ago
  I don’t think you fully understood his point. When a website comes to your computer, and you choose to digest it in the manner you see fit, our using YOUR resources the way YOU see fit. The content creator wants you to use your resources the way THEY see fit. They ... can’t really demand that. As opposed to charging a subscription fee, in which you are aligned in wanting to use your resources in a way you both find satisfying.
  - dumbfounder 9y ago
    When the mailman comes onto MY property to deliver the mail he has other people's mail in his bag on MY walkway! I don't want that to happen because it's mine!!!!
    - arkades 9y ago
      Actually, if you place your mailbox on the perimeter of the property - as is quite common in some areas - the mailman won’t enter your property. Huh. Turns out you do have control over your property, after all.
      - dumbfounder 9y ago