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That is a super dangerous road to go down. Good people can hold horrible ideas and horrible people can be right about some things (Hitler and the nazis were abs
by tomjen3 9y ago
That is a super dangerous road to go down. Good people can hold horrible ideas and horrible people can be right about some things (Hitler and the nazis were absolutely right that smoking was dangerous).
As a 99.9% libertarian the idea of messing with other peoples sex lives is completely alien to me, but just because others are wrong doesn't make them bad people; I believe it is important to separate the people from their ideas.
- jxramos 9y agowhat a counter example, do you have any sources for that Nazi's ethos around smoking? Wild stuff.
- paloaltokid 9y agoI don’t know about the smoking thing but Hitler was famously a vegetarian. Many environmentalists argue that if we eliminated meat production the planet would be better off.
- somecontext 9y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tobacco_movement_in_Nazi_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tobacco_movement_in_Nazi_...
- logfromblammo 9y agoI don't think it is possible to separate a person from their ideas. You are the sum of your ideas. If you hold a bad belief, that is a bad piece of your whole personality. None of us are perfect. We all have bad ideas sometimes. That means nobody can be an entirely good person. But the converse is possible; we can separate the idea from the person. And when judging the merits of the idea, we certainly should. Consider that if you separate all the ideas from a person, what is left? An empty shell of a body? Does it still have a person in it?
- lurr 9y ago> I believe it is important to separate the people from their ideas Okay, why were the Nazis evil then? Why weren't they good people who just had awful awful ideas? Why is it wrong to judge people for the ideas they express and the actions they take?
- imtringued 9y agoThere is no objective way to judge people. For nazis may be bad people but for nazis other nazis are good people. >Why is it wrong to judge people for the ideas they express and the actions they take? If you must judge then judge by actions not by ideas. If the problem is that nazis murder people then a "nazi ban" is not the right solution. The solution is to ban murder.