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Going through your browser settings really is quite the hoop.

_red 9y ago
Yeah, its so intuitive for the average person to type: about:config in address bar and scroll through hundreds of oddly named parameters to turn off spyware. Comments like yours are illustrative of a certain mindset. When you encounter the complexity of domains you are not intimately familiar with (court system, law, finance, etc), and those complexities are designed specifically to make it hard for you to protect yourself, I'm sure you are just as understanding as you are now.
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- bwat49 9y ago
  You're being hyperbolic, you don't need to go into about:config. It's right in the main browser settings, under the Privacy and Security section where one would expect settings like this to be
  - JadeNB 9y ago
    > It's right in the main browser settings, under the Privacy and Security section where one would expect settings like this to be If you asked me "where would you go to change settings to prevent the browser from violating your privacy and infringing on your security?", then, yes, I would go to "Privacy and Security". If, however, you asked me "what would you expect to find under 'Privacy and Security'?", my answer would be that that's where I would go to protect myself from malicious websites, not from malicious browsers. (I know that 'malicious' is quite, and almost certainly too, strong here, but the point is that I think, and am explicitly encouraged to think, of Mozilla as being on my side against the sites I visit, and I don't think it's natural to expect that I will start thinking of how I need to protect myself from Mozilla to use their products in the way that I, rather than they, intend.)
  - bigbugbag 9y ago
    If what you say is true, please point me to where I can find the following privacy settings in the main preferences: network.websocket.enabled network.IDN_show_punycode dom.event.clipboardevents.enabled dom.storage.enabled dom.indexedDB.enabled dom.battery.enabled dom.enable_user_timing dom.enable_resource_timing dom.netinfo.enabled layout.css.visited_links_enabled browser.safebrowsing.phishing.enabled browser.safebrowsing.downloads.remote.enabled browser.safebrowsing.malware.enabled browser.send_pings beacon.enabled privacy.donottrackheader.enabled privacy.trackingprotection.enabled dom.enable_performance datareporting.healthreport.service.enabled datareporting.healthreport.uploadEnabled toolkit.telemetry.enabled toolkit.telemetry.unified media.peerconnection.enabled media.peerconnection.ice.default_address_only media.peerconnection.ice.no_host media.eme.enabled media.gmp-eme-adobe.enabled webgl.disabled geo.enabled camera.control.face_detection.enabled device.sensors.enabled security.tls.unrestricted_rc4_fallback security.tls.insecure_fallback_hosts.use_static_list security.ssl.require_safe_negotiation security.ssl.treat_unsafe_negotiation_as_broken
    - justinclift 9y ago
      Errr... is "dom.enable_performance" really a privacy setting? Doing someone online searching now, not seeing an explanation for it. There is one other HN post though, also mentioning it in a privacy context, but not further info either. :/
linkmotif 9y ago
It is.
mynewtb 9y ago
How are you supposed to do turn the defaults to a reasonable level of privacy without launching Firefox once though?
- takeda 9y ago
  I remember it was asking if I want participate in studies when I installed FF for the first time.

_red 9y ago

Yeah, its so intuitive for the average person to type: about:config in address bar and scroll through hundreds of oddly named parameters to turn off spyware. Comments like yours are illustrative of a certain mindset. When you encounter the complexity of domains you are not intimately familiar with (court system, law, finance, etc), and those complexities are designed specifically to make it hard for you to protect yourself, I'm sure you are just as understanding as you are now.

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bwat49 9y ago
You're being hyperbolic, you don't need to go into about:config. It's right in the main browser settings, under the Privacy and Security section where one would expect settings like this to be
- JadeNB 9y ago
  > It's right in the main browser settings, under the Privacy and Security section where one would expect settings like this to be If you asked me "where would you go to change settings to prevent the browser from violating your privacy and infringing on your security?", then, yes, I would go to "Privacy and Security". If, however, you asked me "what would you expect to find under 'Privacy and Security'?", my answer would be that that's where I would go to protect myself from malicious websites, not from malicious browsers. (I know that 'malicious' is quite, and almost certainly too, strong here, but the point is that I think, and am explicitly encouraged to think, of Mozilla as being on my side against the sites I visit, and I don't think it's natural to expect that I will start thinking of how I need to protect myself from Mozilla to use their products in the way that I, rather than they, intend.)
- bigbugbag 9y ago
  If what you say is true, please point me to where I can find the following privacy settings in the main preferences: network.websocket.enabled network.IDN_show_punycode dom.event.clipboardevents.enabled dom.storage.enabled dom.indexedDB.enabled dom.battery.enabled dom.enable_user_timing dom.enable_resource_timing dom.netinfo.enabled layout.css.visited_links_enabled browser.safebrowsing.phishing.enabled browser.safebrowsing.downloads.remote.enabled browser.safebrowsing.malware.enabled browser.send_pings beacon.enabled privacy.donottrackheader.enabled privacy.trackingprotection.enabled dom.enable_performance datareporting.healthreport.service.enabled datareporting.healthreport.uploadEnabled toolkit.telemetry.enabled toolkit.telemetry.unified media.peerconnection.enabled media.peerconnection.ice.default_address_only media.peerconnection.ice.no_host media.eme.enabled media.gmp-eme-adobe.enabled webgl.disabled geo.enabled camera.control.face_detection.enabled device.sensors.enabled security.tls.unrestricted_rc4_fallback security.tls.insecure_fallback_hosts.use_static_list security.ssl.require_safe_negotiation security.ssl.treat_unsafe_negotiation_as_broken
  - justinclift 9y ago
    Errr... is "dom.enable_performance" really a privacy setting? Doing someone online searching now, not seeing an explanation for it. There is one other HN post though, also mentioning it in a privacy context, but not further info either. :/

linkmotif 9y ago

It is.

mynewtb 9y ago

How are you supposed to do turn the defaults to a reasonable level of privacy without launching Firefox once though?

takeda 9y ago
I remember it was asking if I want participate in studies when I installed FF for the first time.