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This is what it looks like: https://imgur.com/a/mriUw https://imgur.com/a/mriUw It scared the hell out of me! Are these guys losing their minds? It was report

by shak77 9y ago

This is what it looks like: https://imgur.com/a/mriUw https://imgur.com/a/mriUw It scared the hell out of me! Are these guys losing their minds? It was reported as a bug and the response thus far is indeed underwhelming for such a severe issue: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1424977 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1424977

grawprog 9y ago
>Are these guys losing their minds? Yes
- shak77 9y ago
  I don't know what the hell is going on with Mozilla. Ever tried to install Firefox on Android? The new tab page is full of ads by default! And this is the company we are supposed to trust? Because right now I feel like I trust Google more, and that's a lot to say.
  - jhiska 9y ago
    We can't argue with your feelings.
    - shak77 9y ago
      Then these pages should not be full of feelings: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/internet-health/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/internet-health/
      - positivecomment 9y ago
        Could you please be more clear? I disabled all my extensions and still don't see anything there that is based on feelings?
        keb_ 9y ago
        I think they are feeling betrayed by Mozilla, and that they are saying language like "We all love the web" and "Internet for people" inspires feelings.
        jhiska 9y ago
        You could have asked me what I meant.
  - _e 9y ago
    To solve this "problem" on android, check this xposed framework module: http://repo.xposed.info/module/de.defim.apk.unbelovedhosts http://repo.xposed.info/module/de.defim.apk.unbelovedhosts
  - teekert 9y ago
    Adds are annoying yes, but they are only bad for your privacy if they track and profile you. Adds allow for free stuff and they can be done the right way. Granted this is becoming more and more rare so I understand your standard association of adds with distrust. The adds you refer to are non tracking (please tell me if I'm wrong though) and will slowly be replaced by sites you visit (often).
    - Karunamon 9y ago
      Ads abuse the user's time, attention, and privacy. Minus the tracking, that's still two factors of abuse rather than three.
      - teekert 9y ago
        How do they abuse your privacy without tracking? Of course if they didn't abuse your time and attention they wouldn't make sense. But someone has to be paying Firefox's development, and it is not you. I'll take that last part back if you contribute to Mozilla. Hey, maybe it's an idea for a donation: make a 5$ Firefox without adds. I'd pay. To bad part goes to Google that way.
        makecheck 9y ago
        The irony is that people pay, just not to the right place. Every unnecessarily-bloated download tears through data plans and costs people money to their ISP that never makes it to the provider. I want plain-text ads that provide just as much revenue to web sites but without obnoxious experiences and fat downloads.
        palunon 9y ago
        > Every unnecessarily-bloated download tears through data plans and costs people money to their ISP Only in third internet world countries like the US... Elsewhere, we don't have limited data plans.
        9y ago
  - grawprog 9y ago
    No. Firefox was too big for my old phone and I switched to palemoon when firefox stopped allowing unsigned plugins on my desktop. I've been using habit browser on my phone. I don't really trust it at all so I give it minimal permissions and try not to do any browsing on my phone I don't expect to be tracked or monitored. It's fast and customizable and has a built in adblocker so I've been fairly happy with it. I've tried a lot of different mobile browsers. I haven't really found any I liked. They all kinda suck in one way or another. I was really hoping something from F-Droid would be appealing to use but they were all disappointing. The state of mobile browsers in general is kind of abysmal.
bwat49 9y ago
It wasn't supposed to be visible on the addons page
- mark-r 9y ago
  I don't think that makes it better. Knowing that there's a way to get an addon installed invisibly is going to be more justification for paranoia.
  - bwat49 9y ago
    You can disable these studies under Options | Privacy and Security
    - _red 9y ago
      I hate the fact that Firefox increasingly makes me jump through all sorts of hoops to find all the hidden options to turn off their various spyware attempts. Its the Win10 of browsers...
      - teddyfrozevelt 9y ago
        Going through your browser settings really is quite the hoop.
        _red 9y ago
        Yeah, its so intuitive for the average person to type: about:config in address bar and scroll through hundreds of oddly named parameters to turn off spyware. Comments like yours are illustrative of a certain mindset. When you encounter the complexity of domains you are not intimately familiar with (court system, law, finance, etc), and those complexities are designed specifically to make it hard for you to protect yourself, I'm sure you are just as understanding as you are now.
        deleted 9y ago
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by shak77 9y ago

grawprog 9y ago

>Are these guys losing their minds? Yes

shak77 9y ago
I don't know what the hell is going on with Mozilla. Ever tried to install Firefox on Android? The new tab page is full of ads by default! And this is the company we are supposed to trust? Because right now I feel like I trust Google more, and that's a lot to say.
- jhiska 9y ago
  We can't argue with your feelings.
  - shak77 9y ago
    Then these pages should not be full of feelings: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/internet-health/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/internet-health/
    - positivecomment 9y ago
      Could you please be more clear? I disabled all my extensions and still don't see anything there that is based on feelings?
      - keb_ 9y ago
        I think they are feeling betrayed by Mozilla, and that they are saying language like "We all love the web" and "Internet for people" inspires feelings.
        jhiska 9y ago
        You could have asked me what I meant.
- _e 9y ago
  To solve this "problem" on android, check this xposed framework module: http://repo.xposed.info/module/de.defim.apk.unbelovedhosts http://repo.xposed.info/module/de.defim.apk.unbelovedhosts
- teekert 9y ago
  Adds are annoying yes, but they are only bad for your privacy if they track and profile you. Adds allow for free stuff and they can be done the right way. Granted this is becoming more and more rare so I understand your standard association of adds with distrust. The adds you refer to are non tracking (please tell me if I'm wrong though) and will slowly be replaced by sites you visit (often).
  - Karunamon 9y ago
    Ads abuse the user's time, attention, and privacy. Minus the tracking, that's still two factors of abuse rather than three.
    - teekert 9y ago
      How do they abuse your privacy without tracking? Of course if they didn't abuse your time and attention they wouldn't make sense. But someone has to be paying Firefox's development, and it is not you. I'll take that last part back if you contribute to Mozilla. Hey, maybe it's an idea for a donation: make a 5$ Firefox without adds. I'd pay. To bad part goes to Google that way.
      - makecheck 9y ago
        The irony is that people pay, just not to the right place. Every unnecessarily-bloated download tears through data plans and costs people money to their ISP that never makes it to the provider. I want plain-text ads that provide just as much revenue to web sites but without obnoxious experiences and fat downloads.
        palunon 9y ago
        > Every unnecessarily-bloated download tears through data plans and costs people money to their ISP Only in third internet world countries like the US... Elsewhere, we don't have limited data plans.
        9y ago
- grawprog 9y ago
  No. Firefox was too big for my old phone and I switched to palemoon when firefox stopped allowing unsigned plugins on my desktop. I've been using habit browser on my phone. I don't really trust it at all so I give it minimal permissions and try not to do any browsing on my phone I don't expect to be tracked or monitored. It's fast and customizable and has a built in adblocker so I've been fairly happy with it. I've tried a lot of different mobile browsers. I haven't really found any I liked. They all kinda suck in one way or another. I was really hoping something from F-Droid would be appealing to use but they were all disappointing. The state of mobile browsers in general is kind of abysmal.

bwat49 9y ago

It wasn't supposed to be visible on the addons page

mark-r 9y ago
I don't think that makes it better. Knowing that there's a way to get an addon installed invisibly is going to be more justification for paranoia.
- bwat49 9y ago
  You can disable these studies under Options | Privacy and Security
  - _red 9y ago
    I hate the fact that Firefox increasingly makes me jump through all sorts of hoops to find all the hidden options to turn off their various spyware attempts. Its the Win10 of browsers...
    - teddyfrozevelt 9y ago
      Going through your browser settings really is quite the hoop.
      - _red 9y ago
        Yeah, its so intuitive for the average person to type: about:config in address bar and scroll through hundreds of oddly named parameters to turn off spyware. Comments like yours are illustrative of a certain mindset. When you encounter the complexity of domains you are not intimately familiar with (court system, law, finance, etc), and those complexities are designed specifically to make it hard for you to protect yourself, I'm sure you are just as understanding as you are now.
        deleted 9y ago
        [deleted]