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1TB SSD increase costs $800. 2TB SSD increase costs $2000 (from 2TB to 4TB). Apple tax hits hard.
by Bishonen88 9y ago
1TB SSD increase costs $800.
2TB SSD increase costs $2000 (from 2TB to 4TB).
Apple tax hits hard.
- ajmurmann 9y agoDoes anyone know if these at least are nvme?
- sbr464 9y agoYeah they are all nvme
- ihsw2 9y agoFor reference, 1TB NVMe SSDs retail for $600+ and 2TB NVMe SSDs retail for $1700+. Lower-priced 2TB NVMe SSDs will probably come out soon, driving the cost down hard.
- baldfat 9y agoApple is famous for paying less for hardware than any other manufacture so I don't see how MSRP is pertinent.
- faitswulff 9y agoMSRP is what the customer can expect to pay, so gp is probably thinking of it from the consumer's perspective.
- gonational 9y agoPublicly traded corporations do not extend savings created from economies of scale to their costumers - they extend them to their shareholders.
- jackhack 9y agoThey may, if competing on price, but that is a decision for C-level executive suite with direction from the Board.
- pdpi 9y agoSure. But, from his numbers, if you were buying it at MSRP as a consumer, the $800 upgrade would cost you around $1100.
- tinus_hn 9y agoExcept that if there are problems with the ssd and it was built in, it’s covered by the Apple warranty.
- pdpi 9y agoSo it's both cheaper and covered by Apple warranty (which tends to be quite good). Your point being?
- olympus 9y agoIt's not cheaper. $2000 is the price difference to go from the 2TB upgrade to the 4TB from Apple. $1100 is the price difference to go from 2TB to 4TB if you paid retail. Apple is getting all of the profit that a retailer would, plus an additional $900 profit on top of that. With the money you save you can self insure because the SSD isn't guaranteed to fail.
- tkxxx7 9y agoWhat numbers are you looking at? I don't see how you follow this: > 1TB NVMe SSDs retail for $600+ and 2TB NVMe SSDs retail for $1700+. with this: > It's not cheaper. $2000 is the price difference to go from the 2TB upgrade to the 4TB from Apple. $1100 is the price difference to go from 2TB to 4TB if you paid retail.
- olympus 9y agoI misread the above post as prices for 2/4TB SSDs instead of 1/2 TB SSDs. My bad. The real difference between Apple and DIY is $300. On their configuration page, Apple's prices are +$800 to go to the 2TB SSD, and +$2800 to go to the 4TB SSD. That's a $2000 price jump to add 2TB. If I did it myself I could add 2TB for $1700. That means that Apple gets all the profit that a retailer would, plus $300. A $300 premium is still a little gougey from Apple considering it takes them all of five seconds to slap the extra SSD in on the assembly line.
- bryanlarsen 9y agoAnd a year from now when those prices have been cut in half, Apple will still be charging the same amount.
- rbanffy 9y agoA year from now there will be a modular Mac Pro.
- stinky613 9y agoDid Apple say that? Or are you making a prediction?
- lemoncucumber 9y agoIndeed. I still can’t believe Apple pre-announced it a year in advance, so out of character for them: https://daringfireball.net/2017/04/the_mac_pro_lives https://daringfireball.net/2017/04/the_mac_pro_lives
- MaysonL 9y agoWell, they don't have any currently well-selling model whose sales would get ruined by the Osborne effect, and the pre-announcement may keep a few customers from defecting to Windows, Linux, or Hackintoshes.
- FireBeyond 9y agoI guess... if $449 is "$600+"... https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147595 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682014...
- ihsw2 9y agoWell, to be fair, I was looking at the 960 Pro rather than 960 Evo. Maybe Apple will go for lower-quality components, maybe.
- bufferoverflow 9y agoFor comparison, 1TB NVMe SSD is $450 on Amazon, rated at 3,200 MB/s reads and 1,900 MB/s writes. There are cheaper ones, at $290, rated at around ~$530MB/s reads and writes. I doubt that many professionals will experience much difference between these in most applications, as most are now CPU-bound.
- icedchai 9y ago530MB/sec is what you would expect from a SATA3 SSD. Are you sure you're looking at the right product? Right. No difference at all. If you're editing hours of high resolution video, you're going to notice the difference.
- saiya-jin 9y agoyes, and that's about the only application where you actually see & feel some difference. not many actually do those
- bufferoverflow 9y agoVideo is one of a few examples when a faster SSD could make a difference. Any non-trivial operations you do on the video will still be bound by the CPU. 530MB/s is enough to completely read a 5GB video into RAM in under 10 seconds. That's orders of magnitude faster than you can edit it and then render it.
- notheguyouthink 9y agoI had a similar issue deciding to upgrade my newest MacBook Pro. It was $400 to upgrade from something like 500GB to 1TB. I'm speechless with some of these decisions from them.
- tonyedgecombe 9y agoFully loaded price in the UK is £12,927.98
- imtringued 9y agoNAND SSDs have stopped improving. Smaller lithography processes impact write cycles negatively. The write cycles shrink faster than the capacity grows. The same applies to storing multiple bits within a single cell via multiple voltage levels. MLC, TLC and QLC all require more accurate voltage measurements which become less and less reliable as the voltage drops with each write. The only remaining way to increase capacity without downsides is by adding more layers. After that there is no option other than switching away from NAND.
- aiofgniaotnio 9y ago$2400 for an extra 96 GiB of RAM is even worse.