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I actually dislike that fact very much. Oh, I don't disagree that github is that for so many users...and i can not disagree with the convenience of what github

I actually dislike that fact very much. Oh, I don't disagree that github is that for so many users...and i can not disagree with the convenience of what github provides...I simply dislike that it is all controlled/owned by github...a single point of technical/infrastructure failure, and a single corporate entity where so much content (content beyond raw code, that is) is hosted...not unlike the facebook effect. I wish people hosted their content in a more decentralized fashion.

amelius 9y ago
Well, at least you can easily get your and other people's data out of GitHub (unlike e.g. YouTube and Facebook). It would be easy to create a giant mirror of GitHub, for example (once you have a distributed storage system). Also, GitHub doesn't control what users are viewing (unlike YouTube and Facebook), which makes the platform less of a threat to internet freedom.
- majewsky 9y ago
  > easily So they added a button to dump all issues and PRs without messing with the API?
  - Operyl 9y ago
    We’re programmers... working with APIs is what most of us do day to day, they’re not holding it hostage behind complicated and metered usage APIs.
    - ramses0 9y ago
      GitHub API is decidedly metered. https://developer.github.com/v3/rate_limit/ https://developer.github.com/v3/rate_limit/
      - Operyl 9y ago
        When I say metered, I meant "pay per query", not rate limits meant to keep the service online.
- dmd 9y ago
  I'd consider Youtube to be one of the top easiest sites to get one's data (or someone else's!) out of. Why do you think it's not?
  - glenneroo 9y ago
    Do you mean downloading using unsupported 3rd party tools? Because those have to be regularly updated to ensure they even work and could some day stop working entirely if Google decided to care about blocking such tools. In comparison, GitHub offers a simple clone button (among ways) which gives you everything.
    - dmd 9y ago
      No, I mean Google.com/takeout
      - Benjamin_Dobell 9y ago
        That only helps you backup your own data. Github (or rather Git) facilitates distributed backup.
      - glenneroo 9y ago
        I just did a complete takeout - it doesn't download videos, only history, comments, playlists and subscriptions (in various formats: json, html, etc).
        dmd 9y ago
        Then you did something wrong or didn't pick the right export options. I do a download of mine every 3 months, and it works fine.
    - dawnerd 9y ago
      Youtube-dl? I mean I get your argument but op isn’t wrong. YouTube is reallly easy to rip content from.
zitterbewegung 9y ago
Everyone says that people want a decentralized set of repositories for open source. I have never seen it happen and instead we just get better and better iterations on sourceforge.
- rocky1138 9y ago
  I think Gitlab does very well as a decentralized set of repos.
pokstad 9y ago
Is there a github clone people can host on their personal site that handles git, wiki, issues, and pages? Not talking about gitlab either. Only for hosting at the project level to keep things simple.
- cattlefarmer 9y ago
  https://github.com/gitbucket/gitbucket https://github.com/gitbucket/gitbucket

amelius 9y ago

Well, at least you can easily get your and other people's data out of GitHub (unlike e.g. YouTube and Facebook). It would be easy to create a giant mirror of GitHub, for example (once you have a distributed storage system). Also, GitHub doesn't control what users are viewing (unlike YouTube and Facebook), which makes the platform less of a threat to internet freedom.

majewsky 9y ago
> easily So they added a button to dump all issues and PRs without messing with the API?
- Operyl 9y ago
  We’re programmers... working with APIs is what most of us do day to day, they’re not holding it hostage behind complicated and metered usage APIs.
  - ramses0 9y ago
    GitHub API is decidedly metered. https://developer.github.com/v3/rate_limit/ https://developer.github.com/v3/rate_limit/
    - Operyl 9y ago
      When I say metered, I meant "pay per query", not rate limits meant to keep the service online.
dmd 9y ago
I'd consider Youtube to be one of the top easiest sites to get one's data (or someone else's!) out of. Why do you think it's not?
- glenneroo 9y ago
  Do you mean downloading using unsupported 3rd party tools? Because those have to be regularly updated to ensure they even work and could some day stop working entirely if Google decided to care about blocking such tools. In comparison, GitHub offers a simple clone button (among ways) which gives you everything.
  - dmd 9y ago
    No, I mean Google.com/takeout
    - Benjamin_Dobell 9y ago
      That only helps you backup your own data. Github (or rather Git) facilitates distributed backup.
    - glenneroo 9y ago
      I just did a complete takeout - it doesn't download videos, only history, comments, playlists and subscriptions (in various formats: json, html, etc).
      - dmd 9y ago
        Then you did something wrong or didn't pick the right export options. I do a download of mine every 3 months, and it works fine.
  - dawnerd 9y ago
    Youtube-dl? I mean I get your argument but op isn’t wrong. YouTube is reallly easy to rip content from.

zitterbewegung 9y ago

Everyone says that people want a decentralized set of repositories for open source. I have never seen it happen and instead we just get better and better iterations on sourceforge.

rocky1138 9y ago
I think Gitlab does very well as a decentralized set of repos.

pokstad 9y ago

Is there a github clone people can host on their personal site that handles git, wiki, issues, and pages? Not talking about gitlab either. Only for hosting at the project level to keep things simple.

cattlefarmer 9y ago
https://github.com/gitbucket/gitbucket https://github.com/gitbucket/gitbucket