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While everything you state here is correct, and is clearly of serious concern, my view is that the general public doesn't really have the capacity to fight both
by ohazi 9y ago
While everything you state here is correct, and is clearly of serious concern, my view is that the general public doesn't really have the capacity to fight both of these battles at once.
Right now, I'm convinced we need Google's help to make it harder for governments and ISPs to censor and prioritize.
After that, we'll deal with Google.
- marcosdumay 9y agoCorporations and governments are not two entities you can divide for conquering.
- ohazi 9y agoI agree with you, and it feels dirty, but we're going to end up with neither if we don't start with one. If you have a better idea that can even plausibly attempt to get both, I'm all ears.
- marcosdumay 9y agoI have no better idea, but it's a problematic plan. If you go with this, you will be surprised by underground deals that will stop that division, and will very likely mislead you. The good part is that it focus on fixing the government. That's the correct entity to fix.
- taavi013 9y agoAs of today Google with it's BBR + QUIC + Chrome combo and Facebook with their Zero protocol, combined with their extensive data center network can get much better end user experience than any other service provider regardless of any government. We can talk about network neutrality whatever we want - but these companies have built technological capabilities to have "little bit bigger share". So, probably after some time it is too late to deal with Google:)
- discoursism 9y ago> As of today Google with it's BBR + QUIC + Chrome combo and Facebook with their Zero protocol, combined with their extensive data center network can get much better end user experience than any other service provider regardless of any government. What is your preferred course here? Google has provided free as in freedom source code for all of the above, and in some cases pushed the code upstream. Granted, it will take small players longer to see the benefits of these techs, since they can't afford to integrate it themselves and must wait for vendors to include it. But small players usually have worse user experience regardless of the mechanism. Proposed standards are just one way that happens.
- ocdtrekkie 9y agoI don't understand why people are more afraid of regional monopolies which have only a portion of one country as their scope, than of a global operation like Google. I think it's far more important to deal with Google than hand them the keys to the kingdom while fighting smaller fish.