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Yahoo Finance has added over 100 cryptocurrency quote pages

136 points by mbgaxyz 9y ago

rizwank 9y ago
Yahoo finance powers the stocks app on iOS. I haven’t seen these new ones work there, fwiw.
- fourstar 9y ago
  It's because this article should be more appropriately titled: "Yahoo Finance Embeds Widget", which is https://www.cryptocompare.com/ https://www.cryptocompare.com/.
vijayr 9y ago
Where can one get historical and current prices of all crypto currencies as a downloadable dataset, even for commercial use?
- amrrs 9y ago
  If you are trying to get in R, Current price you can get from this R package coinmarketcapr
- nsomaru 9y ago
  Not all, but here's a start: https://coinmetrics.io/data-downloads/ You can also use the cryptocompare API: https://www.cryptocompare.com/api/
- NicoJuicy 9y ago
  I have a service which has been logging for over a half year somewhere ( probably from coinmarketcap, all known cryptocurrencies). I thought it was updated every 15 minutes Email me (see profile) and i'll check it out do send it to you.
- deleted 9y ago
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- inlineint 9y ago
  There is https://www.kaiko.com/ https://www.kaiko.com/, they collect and sell bid/ask and orderbook data for most of the exchanges that are active now or were active in past.
elmar 9y ago
Anyone knows where I can sort cryptocurrencies by block time? BTW anyone knows what is the cryptocurrency with the highest block time?
- thinkMOAR 9y ago
  something like https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/bitcoin-confirmationtime.html https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/bitcoin-confirmationtim... ?
- ringaroundthetx 9y ago
  I dont think that information is out there You can launch your own crypto in a few seconds If you want that parameter you can just do it Youll never have a way to contact the next person asking the question so it is unlikely youll be on the list
- Jenya_ 9y ago
  https://themerkle.com/4-cryptocurrencies-with-much-faster-block-times-than-bitcoin/ https://themerkle.com/4-cryptocurrencies-with-much-faster-bl...
  - elmar 9y ago
    thanks but I am looking for the opposite not the fastest but the slowest.
- peterisza 9y ago
  Random fact: Ripple, IOTA and Stellar Lumens don't use blockchains.
  - etr-strike 9y ago
    Random fact: Ripple, IOTA, and Stellar Lumens are not decentralized and trustless.
    - hyprCoin 9y ago
thinkMOAR 9y ago
wow that is one poor looking website, look like one big banner page with a little table in the middle.
Bishonen88 9y ago
A somewhat related question: If I buy Bitcoin for e.g. $1.000. If the price doubles, how much can I expect to actually get out? I reckon there will be some cost-overhead for the exchange service etc. Am wondering if we're talking about 1%-5% or more like 20%?
- jamesu 9y ago
  Fees vary but your probably looking to pay minimum around ~0.25% to convert to fiat. But then you've also got other fees like withdrawing from a wallet if it's not in an exchange, and of course bank transfer fees so hard to say with certainty.
- ringaroundthetx 9y ago
  .25%-.50% If you dont use professional tools youll pay 1% on Coinbase The pretty button tax Why do you ask? Its as robust and liquid of a market as anything else, up to a few million usd.
- tim333 9y ago
  I've been using coinmate.io and at present the bid and offer are 14195 and 14221 euro or a spread of 0.18%. That's the cheapest I've found. They only do euro although they are London based. I think euro bank transfers are very cheap or free. They are also less painful to verify your passport with than coinbase. I'm not sure they are available to US residents though.
- rakoo 9y ago
  On top of the fees there's another point you have to consider: not all buyers will buy at $2k. You may be able to sell 0.1 BTC, but further buyers will buy at decreasing prices, such as $1950, or $1920 or further down. So for bigger volumes you get less than the current advertised value, which is the max you can get if you sold the minimum amount of BTC.
  - btc_throughaway 9y ago
    This is called slippage. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/slippage.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/slippage.asp
dash2 9y ago
God help us. At this point the sane people are staying quiet. The madness is in full swing, a large number of fools are desperate to be parted from their money, and there is no point trying to stop them. Even on Hacker News, there are no comments below saying "this is stupid". Just "how can I throw my money into this pit?" "I'm planning to build an AI algorithm to throw my money into this pit, can anyone advise?" and "if I throw my money in this pit, will it double or triple over the next week?" Good luck, guys.
- thesmallestcat 9y ago
  Agreed, I'm considering catching a few falling knives when the inevitable crash happens, but that's about it. Looking at the Bitcoin price chart for the past week/month activates the same part of my brain that prevents me touching unrecognizable, large, red, spiky arthropods.
  - etr-strike 9y ago
    History will think of you the same way we think of the Xerox executives handing Apple some of the most important technology of our generation.
    - twayamznacct 9y ago
      Wealthy Elites losing and Wealth Elites gaining, while the normal folk just get to look on in disgust at both. Sounds like the current state of cryptocurrencies for sure.
- QAPereo 9y ago
  I stopped saying “this is stupid” when I realized that was just a shortcut to a brutal donvoting and inane comments full of either mindless greed or equally mindless ideology. This is a group of people who just know they’re too smart to be left holding the bag...
  - Chris2048 9y ago
1024core 9y ago
Remember this quote from Greenspan, folks: "The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent" Edit: oops, sorry, I stand corrected: it was Keynes.
- etr-strike 9y ago
  Sorry you can't see the value and potential of Bitcoin. I hear there's a new social media platform selling ads; you should keep your money with them.
  - sincerely 9y ago
    You should be ashamed of yourself for this comment. This is the sort of discourse I would expect to see in the comment section of an article about something tied to identity politics, not a discussion about support for a digital currency. Is it really impossible for you to believe that someone could see value and potential in bitcoin while believing that the current price is not a an accurate representation of it's value? Maybe they are skeptical of any community that dismisses well-measured criticism with cries of "FUD". Maybe they see bitcoin as cryptocurrency v1.0 but it would be foolish to think that the first implementation of such a technology was the best possible implementation. Maybe they are skeptical of the way many bitcoin-holders seem to prioritize their personal net worth increasing over bitcoin's use as a currency. Maybe they think the future lies in a more extensible platform like Ethereum. Bitcoin and the blockchain are very interesting technologies full of potential but I don't understand why their proponents seem to take everything so personally.
    - etr-strike 9y ago
      Sorry, I don't believe proclaiming "Bitcoin is a bubble" is a "well-measured criticism" of Bitcoin. And people taking time out of their day to make such baseless claims are coming out of the woodwork lately. When the iPod was announced, people frequently commented on purchasing apple stock, or how you can't go wrong purchasing apple. No one was calling apple a bubble when taxi drivers were making those statements. Sorry for speaking up against people who make baseless bubble claims.
1024core 9y ago
What are the tax implications of playing with Bitcoins? (disclaimer: I have no desire to do so, just wondering about it). Say I bought some BTC a couple of years ago, and now sell them at some exchange like Coinbase or Coinmate or whatever. Do these exchanges report 1099s to the IRS? If not, how will the IRS ever find out? (I'm not proposing cheating on taxes either, but just curious about what goes on). What if you just keep the gains and keep quiet?
- stevenj 9y ago
  You have to pay taxes on any income you earn whether it's through trading bitcoin, selling drugs, or working at Google.
- wyldfire 9y ago
  > What are the tax implications of playing with Bitcoins? In the US, presumably? It's ever-so-slightly different from other investments. AFAIK it's a real grey area regarding mining. If you mined the coins, maybe those were taxable income then (offset by big capital expenses?), at the market value at that time. I think that's where the differences might end. Now that you have them, plain old capital gains tax likely applies. > how will the IRS ever find out? ... What if you just keep the gains and keep quiet? You end up accepting some risk that you don't end up being investigated. Very much of the taxes that you pay that are not part of withholding operate this way. Be honest and have nothing to fear or risk an audit.
- iak8god 9y ago
  > Do these exchanges report 1099s to the IRS? Not usually: "With the exception of some business accounts, Coinbase does not provide 1099 forms. Coinbase does however provide a specialized Cost Basis for Taxes report which will help with filing your taxes." [1] After this hypothetical transaction you will likely owe capital gains tax. It would be hard to hide any significant amount from the IRS if you actually want to convert it to USD, for example by transferring to a bank account [2]. Regardless, the IRS is definitely paying attention and going after back taxes on large exchange accounts [3]. [1] https://support.coinbase.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1496488-taxes-faq?b_id=13521 https://support.coinbase.com/customer/en/portal/articles/149... [2] https://pocketsense.com/deposits-reported-irs-7557.html https://pocketsense.com/deposits-reported-irs-7557.html [3] http://fortune.com/2017/11/29/irs-coinbase/ http://fortune.com/2017/11/29/irs-coinbase/
torpfactory 9y ago
Seriously everyone, please stop using bitcoin. The environmental impact of energy generation for mining and proof-of-work is totally untenable. I understand this is key to why Bitcoin works, but we absolutely should not be scaling a technology which so inefficiently uses energy. This is not an argument about the profitability of mining or other technical merits of Bitcoin. Even if all cryptocurrency mining were to use zero-carbon energy generation, we still should not use it: that energy ought to be used for more practical pursuits. A few links about the insane amount of energy used for each transaction: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/ywbbpm/bitcoin-mining-electricity-consumption-ethereum-energy-climate-change https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/ywbbpm/bitcoin-mi... https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/nov/27/bitcoin-mining-consumes-electricity-ireland https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/nov/27/bitcoin-m... Anyone know of cryptocurrencies which will not blow up our planet's carbon or energy budgets? I've heard of proof-of-stake algorithms, but don't understand that approach very well.
- mparramon 9y ago
  1. Renewable energy 2. https://twitter.com/ponli137/status/939523905039097856 https://twitter.com/ponli137/status/939523905039097856
  - GhostVII 9y ago
    1. Most of the world does not have fully renewable energy, and wasting energy just makes it harder to go full renewable. 2. Gold is used throughout the world for a variety of uses, and has been used as a store of value for years pretty much everywhere. Bitcoin is used to get a few people rich, and is actually used as a store of value pretty much nowhere. They aren't comparable.
  - kchoudhu 9y ago
    1. I can think of a hundred things more useful than bitcoin that renewable energy could be used for. 2. Gold has uses other than propping up speculative markets. This is a false equivalence.
- etr-strike 9y ago
Top19 9y ago
I feel obligated to post this comment: Bitcoin is stupid. It’s a bubble. If you make money it will only be on the backs of massive losses on the other side, and potentially globally destabilizing / destructive effects.
- scotty79 9y ago
  You can say the same about art and gold.
  - kamaal 9y ago
    Gold has obvious ornamental and industrial uses. And art is a totally different market. Largely the players are the richest of the rich, who invest in below 1% of their net worths largely for decorating their castles. Other forms of art have recreational and entertainment and genuine uses. Even tulips have their utility, Bitcoin too. The question here really is at what price?
    - scotty79 9y ago
      > Gold has obvious ornamental and industrial uses. Which contributes almost nothing to its price. > And art is a totally different market. Largely the players are the richest of the rich, who invest in below 1% of their net worths largely for decorating their castles. Other forms of art have recreational and entertainment and genuine uses. There is medium priced art too and some people buy it as investment. You can also think about people buying collectibles if buying art is something you associate with decorating castles. What entertainment value has unopened box with plastic spiderman figurine that would justify price of few hundred bucks? It has enteraiment value of me showing you I own it. Bitcoin has the same utility and it also doesn't justify its price. Value comes from scarcity, durability and transferability.
      - kamaal 9y ago
        Ornamental use of Gold is the primary diver for its prices. Ask women. Art has its uses. Because we haven't yet automated creativity.
jerkstate 9y ago
this is great, much nicer interface/interactive charts than coinmarketcap. Good work, yahoo!
RIMR 9y ago
IOTA is #4. I have a good feeling about that one right now. I just put $275 into it. Too bad I didn't think to do that back in October.
- lonewolf_ninja 9y ago
  Which exchange did you use to buy IOTA? You can't really buy IOTA directly with USD, right?

136 points by mbgaxyz 9y ago

rizwank 9y ago

Yahoo finance powers the stocks app on iOS. I haven’t seen these new ones work there, fwiw.

fourstar 9y ago
It's because this article should be more appropriately titled: "Yahoo Finance Embeds Widget", which is https://www.cryptocompare.com/ https://www.cryptocompare.com/.

vijayr 9y ago

Where can one get historical and current prices of all crypto currencies as a downloadable dataset, even for commercial use?

amrrs 9y ago
If you are trying to get in R, Current price you can get from this R package coinmarketcapr
nsomaru 9y ago
Not all, but here's a start: https://coinmetrics.io/data-downloads/ You can also use the cryptocompare API: https://www.cryptocompare.com/api/
NicoJuicy 9y ago
I have a service which has been logging for over a half year somewhere ( probably from coinmarketcap, all known cryptocurrencies). I thought it was updated every 15 minutes Email me (see profile) and i'll check it out do send it to you.
deleted 9y ago
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inlineint 9y ago
There is https://www.kaiko.com/ https://www.kaiko.com/, they collect and sell bid/ask and orderbook data for most of the exchanges that are active now or were active in past.

elmar 9y ago

Anyone knows where I can sort cryptocurrencies by block time? BTW anyone knows what is the cryptocurrency with the highest block time?

thinkMOAR 9y ago
something like https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/bitcoin-confirmationtime.html https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/bitcoin-confirmationtim... ?
ringaroundthetx 9y ago
I dont think that information is out there You can launch your own crypto in a few seconds If you want that parameter you can just do it Youll never have a way to contact the next person asking the question so it is unlikely youll be on the list
Jenya_ 9y ago
https://themerkle.com/4-cryptocurrencies-with-much-faster-block-times-than-bitcoin/ https://themerkle.com/4-cryptocurrencies-with-much-faster-bl...
- elmar 9y ago
  thanks but I am looking for the opposite not the fastest but the slowest.
peterisza 9y ago
Random fact: Ripple, IOTA and Stellar Lumens don't use blockchains.
- etr-strike 9y ago
  Random fact: Ripple, IOTA, and Stellar Lumens are not decentralized and trustless.
  - hyprCoin 9y ago

thinkMOAR 9y ago

wow that is one poor looking website, look like one big banner page with a little table in the middle.

Bishonen88 9y ago

A somewhat related question: If I buy Bitcoin for e.g. $1.000. If the price doubles, how much can I expect to actually get out? I reckon there will be some cost-overhead for the exchange service etc. Am wondering if we're talking about 1%-5% or more like 20%?

jamesu 9y ago
Fees vary but your probably looking to pay minimum around ~0.25% to convert to fiat. But then you've also got other fees like withdrawing from a wallet if it's not in an exchange, and of course bank transfer fees so hard to say with certainty.
ringaroundthetx 9y ago
.25%-.50% If you dont use professional tools youll pay 1% on Coinbase The pretty button tax Why do you ask? Its as robust and liquid of a market as anything else, up to a few million usd.
tim333 9y ago
I've been using coinmate.io and at present the bid and offer are 14195 and 14221 euro or a spread of 0.18%. That's the cheapest I've found. They only do euro although they are London based. I think euro bank transfers are very cheap or free. They are also less painful to verify your passport with than coinbase. I'm not sure they are available to US residents though.
rakoo 9y ago
On top of the fees there's another point you have to consider: not all buyers will buy at $2k. You may be able to sell 0.1 BTC, but further buyers will buy at decreasing prices, such as $1950, or $1920 or further down. So for bigger volumes you get less than the current advertised value, which is the max you can get if you sold the minimum amount of BTC.
- btc_throughaway 9y ago
  This is called slippage. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/slippage.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/slippage.asp

dash2 9y ago

God help us. At this point the sane people are staying quiet. The madness is in full swing, a large number of fools are desperate to be parted from their money, and there is no point trying to stop them. Even on Hacker News, there are no comments below saying "this is stupid". Just "how can I throw my money into this pit?" "I'm planning to build an AI algorithm to throw my money into this pit, can anyone advise?" and "if I throw my money in this pit, will it double or triple over the next week?" Good luck, guys.

thesmallestcat 9y ago
Agreed, I'm considering catching a few falling knives when the inevitable crash happens, but that's about it. Looking at the Bitcoin price chart for the past week/month activates the same part of my brain that prevents me touching unrecognizable, large, red, spiky arthropods.
- etr-strike 9y ago
  History will think of you the same way we think of the Xerox executives handing Apple some of the most important technology of our generation.
  - twayamznacct 9y ago
    Wealthy Elites losing and Wealth Elites gaining, while the normal folk just get to look on in disgust at both. Sounds like the current state of cryptocurrencies for sure.
QAPereo 9y ago
I stopped saying “this is stupid” when I realized that was just a shortcut to a brutal donvoting and inane comments full of either mindless greed or equally mindless ideology. This is a group of people who just know they’re too smart to be left holding the bag...
- Chris2048 9y ago

1024core 9y ago

Remember this quote from Greenspan, folks: "The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent" Edit: oops, sorry, I stand corrected: it was Keynes.

etr-strike 9y ago
Sorry you can't see the value and potential of Bitcoin. I hear there's a new social media platform selling ads; you should keep your money with them.
- sincerely 9y ago
  You should be ashamed of yourself for this comment. This is the sort of discourse I would expect to see in the comment section of an article about something tied to identity politics, not a discussion about support for a digital currency. Is it really impossible for you to believe that someone could see value and potential in bitcoin while believing that the current price is not a an accurate representation of it's value? Maybe they are skeptical of any community that dismisses well-measured criticism with cries of "FUD". Maybe they see bitcoin as cryptocurrency v1.0 but it would be foolish to think that the first implementation of such a technology was the best possible implementation. Maybe they are skeptical of the way many bitcoin-holders seem to prioritize their personal net worth increasing over bitcoin's use as a currency. Maybe they think the future lies in a more extensible platform like Ethereum. Bitcoin and the blockchain are very interesting technologies full of potential but I don't understand why their proponents seem to take everything so personally.
  - etr-strike 9y ago
    Sorry, I don't believe proclaiming "Bitcoin is a bubble" is a "well-measured criticism" of Bitcoin. And people taking time out of their day to make such baseless claims are coming out of the woodwork lately. When the iPod was announced, people frequently commented on purchasing apple stock, or how you can't go wrong purchasing apple. No one was calling apple a bubble when taxi drivers were making those statements. Sorry for speaking up against people who make baseless bubble claims.

1024core 9y ago

What are the tax implications of playing with Bitcoins? (disclaimer: I have no desire to do so, just wondering about it). Say I bought some BTC a couple of years ago, and now sell them at some exchange like Coinbase or Coinmate or whatever. Do these exchanges report 1099s to the IRS? If not, how will the IRS ever find out? (I'm not proposing cheating on taxes either, but just curious about what goes on). What if you just keep the gains and keep quiet?

stevenj 9y ago
You have to pay taxes on any income you earn whether it's through trading bitcoin, selling drugs, or working at Google.
wyldfire 9y ago
> What are the tax implications of playing with Bitcoins? In the US, presumably? It's ever-so-slightly different from other investments. AFAIK it's a real grey area regarding mining. If you mined the coins, maybe those were taxable income then (offset by big capital expenses?), at the market value at that time. I think that's where the differences might end. Now that you have them, plain old capital gains tax likely applies. > how will the IRS ever find out? ... What if you just keep the gains and keep quiet? You end up accepting some risk that you don't end up being investigated. Very much of the taxes that you pay that are not part of withholding operate this way. Be honest and have nothing to fear or risk an audit.
iak8god 9y ago
> Do these exchanges report 1099s to the IRS? Not usually: "With the exception of some business accounts, Coinbase does not provide 1099 forms. Coinbase does however provide a specialized Cost Basis for Taxes report which will help with filing your taxes." [1] After this hypothetical transaction you will likely owe capital gains tax. It would be hard to hide any significant amount from the IRS if you actually want to convert it to USD, for example by transferring to a bank account [2]. Regardless, the IRS is definitely paying attention and going after back taxes on large exchange accounts [3]. [1] https://support.coinbase.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1496488-taxes-faq?b_id=13521 https://support.coinbase.com/customer/en/portal/articles/149... [2] https://pocketsense.com/deposits-reported-irs-7557.html https://pocketsense.com/deposits-reported-irs-7557.html [3] http://fortune.com/2017/11/29/irs-coinbase/ http://fortune.com/2017/11/29/irs-coinbase/

torpfactory 9y ago

Seriously everyone, please stop using bitcoin. The environmental impact of energy generation for mining and proof-of-work is totally untenable. I understand this is key to why Bitcoin works, but we absolutely should not be scaling a technology which so inefficiently uses energy. This is not an argument about the profitability of mining or other technical merits of Bitcoin. Even if all cryptocurrency mining were to use zero-carbon energy generation, we still should not use it: that energy ought to be used for more practical pursuits. A few links about the insane amount of energy used for each transaction: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/ywbbpm/bitcoin-mining-electricity-consumption-ethereum-energy-climate-change https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/ywbbpm/bitcoin-mi... https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/nov/27/bitcoin-mining-consumes-electricity-ireland https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/nov/27/bitcoin-m... Anyone know of cryptocurrencies which will not blow up our planet's carbon or energy budgets? I've heard of proof-of-stake algorithms, but don't understand that approach very well.

mparramon 9y ago
1. Renewable energy 2. https://twitter.com/ponli137/status/939523905039097856 https://twitter.com/ponli137/status/939523905039097856
- GhostVII 9y ago
  1. Most of the world does not have fully renewable energy, and wasting energy just makes it harder to go full renewable. 2. Gold is used throughout the world for a variety of uses, and has been used as a store of value for years pretty much everywhere. Bitcoin is used to get a few people rich, and is actually used as a store of value pretty much nowhere. They aren't comparable.
- kchoudhu 9y ago
  1. I can think of a hundred things more useful than bitcoin that renewable energy could be used for. 2. Gold has uses other than propping up speculative markets. This is a false equivalence.
etr-strike 9y ago

Top19 9y ago

I feel obligated to post this comment: Bitcoin is stupid. It’s a bubble. If you make money it will only be on the backs of massive losses on the other side, and potentially globally destabilizing / destructive effects.

scotty79 9y ago
You can say the same about art and gold.
- kamaal 9y ago
  Gold has obvious ornamental and industrial uses. And art is a totally different market. Largely the players are the richest of the rich, who invest in below 1% of their net worths largely for decorating their castles. Other forms of art have recreational and entertainment and genuine uses. Even tulips have their utility, Bitcoin too. The question here really is at what price?
  - scotty79 9y ago
    > Gold has obvious ornamental and industrial uses. Which contributes almost nothing to its price. > And art is a totally different market. Largely the players are the richest of the rich, who invest in below 1% of their net worths largely for decorating their castles. Other forms of art have recreational and entertainment and genuine uses. There is medium priced art too and some people buy it as investment. You can also think about people buying collectibles if buying art is something you associate with decorating castles. What entertainment value has unopened box with plastic spiderman figurine that would justify price of few hundred bucks? It has enteraiment value of me showing you I own it. Bitcoin has the same utility and it also doesn't justify its price. Value comes from scarcity, durability and transferability.
    - kamaal 9y ago
      Ornamental use of Gold is the primary diver for its prices. Ask women. Art has its uses. Because we haven't yet automated creativity.

jerkstate 9y ago

this is great, much nicer interface/interactive charts than coinmarketcap. Good work, yahoo!

RIMR 9y ago

IOTA is #4. I have a good feeling about that one right now. I just put $275 into it. Too bad I didn't think to do that back in October.

lonewolf_ninja 9y ago
Which exchange did you use to buy IOTA? You can't really buy IOTA directly with USD, right?