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Actually that is why you should like web in current form. Google blocked native youtube app, but kept youtube web accessible from amazon devices. IMO there shou

Actually that is why you should like web in current form. Google blocked native youtube app, but kept youtube web accessible from amazon devices. IMO there should not be be proprietary app to access youtube or any other service, if the same experience could be delivered for everybody via web. If I owned the Youtube, I'll block Amazon too. They're practically taking advantage and not want to give anything back. Don't want to sell google appliances, don't want to participate in youtube ad program. Only word that came to mind is to describe such a attitude is leech.

anon1385 9y ago
>Actually that is why you should like web in current form. Google blocked native youtube app, but kept youtube web accessible from amazon devices From the article: > Amazon has responded, and its response points to the unfair nature of Google effectively blocking access to the YouTube web site based on the type of device being used to access it. "Echo Show and Fire TV now display a standard web view of YouTube.com and point customers directly to YouTube's existing website," Amazon's statement reads. "Google is setting a disappointing precedent by selectively blocking customer access to an open website. We hope to resolve this with Google as soon as possible."
- finchisko 9y ago
  If you think about it, those statements doesn't make sense. 1. Google effectively blocking access to the YouTube web site based on the type of device being used to access it. 2. Show and Fire TV now display a standard web view of YouTube.com and point customers directly to YouTube's existing website I understood it, that Google blocked Amazon to access youtube via native app. And Amazon reaction was to switch their youtube app to webview, which basically renders web version of youtube.
syshum 9y ago
>Google blocked native youtube app, but kept youtube web accessible from amazon devices. This is false, the app on the fire tv is simply a webview of https://www.youtube.com/tv https://www.youtube.com/tv that is publicly accessible They are not doing any, no my knowledge, more than wrapping that page up in a webview
- finchisko 9y ago
  Ok. So finally it's start making sense. Google blocked Amazon access to https://www.youtube.com/tv https://www.youtube.com/tv. So they set webview url to https://www.youtube.com/ https://www.youtube.com/ instead. Correct?
  - syshum 9y ago
    Today it is still youtube.com/tv but Google has injected Popup that says the service will be disabled on 1/1/2018 (https://i.redd.it/g8t5z4owv5201.jpg https://i.redd.it/g8t5z4owv5201.jpg) I do not know what will happen on 1/1/2018. Redirecting to YouTube main page is likely not a very good option because the UI would be almost unusable on TV. I have seen some people suggesting the Silk Browser as a work around, I have tried it is it not very user friendly and does not work at all with the youtube/tv interface. I am likely ordering a Roku Today to see if I like them, Amazon is risking alot here, this YouTube situation may be the final straw for me (and many others I suspect). They started putting ads on the FireTV Device, they are spending a crap ton of money to get Sports I have no interest in, now YouTube is pulling out. It seems every day the FireTV ecosystem get worse and worse, time to move on i think
    - pbhjpbhj 9y ago
      Prior to FireTV we used Roku device branded as nowtv. Someone unlawfully accessed it, either from Roku or with their permission, and disabled side-loading preventing us from using it to view family photos, local media, etc. (with Plex app, as it happens). Shame, the movie package we were buying from nowtv was excellent. In short Roku and nowtv is dead to me. Google making FireTV worse means I'm not going to buy Google - I can't endorse that behaviour - so what else is there? Just no-name android devices?? Probably I'll use a hack; presumably using a proxy to mask FireTV, or stripping UA info is going to work.

anon1385 9y ago

>Actually that is why you should like web in current form. Google blocked native youtube app, but kept youtube web accessible from amazon devices From the article: > Amazon has responded, and its response points to the unfair nature of Google effectively blocking access to the YouTube web site based on the type of device being used to access it. "Echo Show and Fire TV now display a standard web view of YouTube.com and point customers directly to YouTube's existing website," Amazon's statement reads. "Google is setting a disappointing precedent by selectively blocking customer access to an open website. We hope to resolve this with Google as soon as possible."

finchisko 9y ago
If you think about it, those statements doesn't make sense. 1. Google effectively blocking access to the YouTube web site based on the type of device being used to access it. 2. Show and Fire TV now display a standard web view of YouTube.com and point customers directly to YouTube's existing website I understood it, that Google blocked Amazon to access youtube via native app. And Amazon reaction was to switch their youtube app to webview, which basically renders web version of youtube.

syshum 9y ago

>Google blocked native youtube app, but kept youtube web accessible from amazon devices. This is false, the app on the fire tv is simply a webview of https://www.youtube.com/tv https://www.youtube.com/tv that is publicly accessible They are not doing any, no my knowledge, more than wrapping that page up in a webview

finchisko 9y ago
Ok. So finally it's start making sense. Google blocked Amazon access to https://www.youtube.com/tv https://www.youtube.com/tv. So they set webview url to https://www.youtube.com/ https://www.youtube.com/ instead. Correct?
- syshum 9y ago
  Today it is still youtube.com/tv but Google has injected Popup that says the service will be disabled on 1/1/2018 (https://i.redd.it/g8t5z4owv5201.jpg https://i.redd.it/g8t5z4owv5201.jpg) I do not know what will happen on 1/1/2018. Redirecting to YouTube main page is likely not a very good option because the UI would be almost unusable on TV. I have seen some people suggesting the Silk Browser as a work around, I have tried it is it not very user friendly and does not work at all with the youtube/tv interface. I am likely ordering a Roku Today to see if I like them, Amazon is risking alot here, this YouTube situation may be the final straw for me (and many others I suspect). They started putting ads on the FireTV Device, they are spending a crap ton of money to get Sports I have no interest in, now YouTube is pulling out. It seems every day the FireTV ecosystem get worse and worse, time to move on i think
  - pbhjpbhj 9y ago
    Prior to FireTV we used Roku device branded as nowtv. Someone unlawfully accessed it, either from Roku or with their permission, and disabled side-loading preventing us from using it to view family photos, local media, etc. (with Plex app, as it happens). Shame, the movie package we were buying from nowtv was excellent. In short Roku and nowtv is dead to me. Google making FireTV worse means I'm not going to buy Google - I can't endorse that behaviour - so what else is there? Just no-name android devices?? Probably I'll use a hack; presumably using a proxy to mask FireTV, or stripping UA info is going to work.