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It's interesting that both of these giant very much support net neutrality but have no problem balkanizing the internet via hardware.

adventured 9y ago
All of the big corporate net neutrality supporters are universal hypocrites about blocking anything they don't like when it suits them. If you take a look at the history of: Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, Google, Facebook, Twitter they've all done it at various times. The comical turn of control that Twitter instituted around their APIs for example. Oh, Twitter likes to control its own service and network? Big surprise right. If Comcast should be semi-nationalized into a heavily regulated public good, then why shouldn't every major web company be similarly nationalized? From Yelp to Zillow to Dropbox to Airbnb to Uber to Lyft to the giants like Google. These are big companies, what's the moral basis to force a telecom carrier to obey a net neutrality concept, but to not force huge services like Twitter or Snapchat to have to operate their own services on a strictly wide open basis such that they're barred from restricting or throttling any connections to their services? Why shouldn't all Internet services be forced by law to provide fully open API access to all of their non-sensitive data, with zero restrictions and throttling? They shouldn't be allowed to discriminate in any manner on the ability to access their data. It's an entirely arbitrary line being drawn, derived from subjective bias of the supporters. With these companies it's always do what I say and not what I do.
- dsharlet 9y ago
  Of all of the companies you listed, only Comcast needed to obtain the right to dig a trench through much of the private and public property in America prior to doing business. In exchange for that right, they accepted many regulatory burdens (often very explicitly in contracted negotiations with various levels of government), and should be accepting of future regulatory burdens as well.
  - blackoil 9y ago
    But all company need right to do business, and for that they accept many regulatory burdens, like taxes, employment laws, PII laws which are different at country state and industry and company size level. So not unprecedented to have laws for web companies.
noncoml 9y ago
There is a word for that: hypocrites
hartator 9y ago
Hypocrisy at is finest. Device neutrality should be a thing.

adventured 9y ago

All of the big corporate net neutrality supporters are universal hypocrites about blocking anything they don't like when it suits them. If you take a look at the history of: Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, Google, Facebook, Twitter they've all done it at various times. The comical turn of control that Twitter instituted around their APIs for example. Oh, Twitter likes to control its own service and network? Big surprise right. If Comcast should be semi-nationalized into a heavily regulated public good, then why shouldn't every major web company be similarly nationalized? From Yelp to Zillow to Dropbox to Airbnb to Uber to Lyft to the giants like Google. These are big companies, what's the moral basis to force a telecom carrier to obey a net neutrality concept, but to not force huge services like Twitter or Snapchat to have to operate their own services on a strictly wide open basis such that they're barred from restricting or throttling any connections to their services? Why shouldn't all Internet services be forced by law to provide fully open API access to all of their non-sensitive data, with zero restrictions and throttling? They shouldn't be allowed to discriminate in any manner on the ability to access their data. It's an entirely arbitrary line being drawn, derived from subjective bias of the supporters. With these companies it's always do what I say and not what I do.

dsharlet 9y ago
Of all of the companies you listed, only Comcast needed to obtain the right to dig a trench through much of the private and public property in America prior to doing business. In exchange for that right, they accepted many regulatory burdens (often very explicitly in contracted negotiations with various levels of government), and should be accepting of future regulatory burdens as well.
- blackoil 9y ago
  But all company need right to do business, and for that they accept many regulatory burdens, like taxes, employment laws, PII laws which are different at country state and industry and company size level. So not unprecedented to have laws for web companies.

noncoml 9y ago

There is a word for that: hypocrites

hartator 9y ago

Hypocrisy at is finest. Device neutrality should be a thing.