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Personally, as a Millennial, I blame Boomers for everything.

by jrs95 9y ago

Retric 9y ago
Considering Boomers have actual power right now and plenty of time for their influence to spread; it's rational to blame them for a huge range of issues.
- TheAdamAndChe 9y ago
  > it's rational to blame them for a huge range of issues No, it's not. It's making broad generalizations on a huge group of people. It's like blaming all white people for discrimination or all black people for crime. It's wrong and discriminatory, and makes the assumption that everyone in that group is equally bad. Instead of focusing on a certain age group, focus on the economic forces that gave boomers more opportunity than the younger generations. It's not the age group that's caused the issues, it's those forces.
  - Retric 9y ago
    Economics are not separated from politics. The poor diet of most Americans is a direct result of various subsidies given to the farming lobby. Individual choices allow an individual to be fat, but at a national level it takes vast tracts of land. The growth of Chinese manufacturing is in large part a result of trade policies and our vast growing national debt's impact on currency's. Want long term growth? End deficit spending. Our poor heath care system is again based on political choices. The current drug policy and prison system is again an outgrowth of political choices.
    - TheAdamAndChe 9y ago
      Right. I'm not arguing this. What I'm arguing is that blaming all Boomers for these issues is silly. Not all Boomers are in control of the government. Not all Boomers pushed for farming subsidies or pushed manufacturing to China. Not all boomers were white or lived a solidly middle-class life.
      - Retric 9y ago
        A specific subgroup of Boomers are still Boomers. So, yea it might not be every single Boomers fault equally, but that does not change anything it's still the Boomers fault.
        TheAdamAndChe 9y ago
        That argument can be extended to black people. Blacks statistically commit more crime than whites in America. It's still bad to say that black people are violent, because it's a broad, presumptuous generalization that ignores the forces causing that trend. Along the same vein, it's bad to assume that an entire age group is bad just because some currently run the country.
        Retric 9y ago
        It's important to consider reality even if it seems unpopular. Blacks are convicted of more crimes in the US, that does not mean they commit more crimes. Just look at all the collage students not busted for drugs. We have a long history of intentionally creating systemic issues.
        TheAdamAndChe 9y ago
        Racial discrimination may play a role, but it does not explain the discrepancies in crime rates that we see: https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-amer... I'm not saying that black people commit more crime because they're black. In fact, that's exactly the point I was trying to make: blaming black crime on their skin color is bad because it ignores the socioeconomic forces causing them to commit more crimes than other races with lower poverty levels. Just like how blaming boomers ignores the geopolitical and economic forces that gave them an advantage at the time. Not all black people commit crime, and not all boomers were privileged or lucky in life.
        Retric 9y ago
    - sobellian 9y ago
      Do you consider the growth of Chinese manufacturing to be a bad thing? IMO China's economic growth has also helped US economic growth.
      - Retric 9y ago
        Like most things it's not purely one thing or another. It has propped up the communist party by reducing the suffering of the Chinese population. I have a hard time calling that a bad thing, but it did create many problems.
  - heartbreak 9y ago
    There is exactly one "millennial" in Congress, and you've probably never heard of her. I think it's fair to say "millennials" aren't voting on legislation, at least. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elise_Stefanik https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elise_Stefanik
    - TheAdamAndChe 9y ago
      > There is exactly one "millennial" in Congress... I think it's fair to say "millennials" aren't voting on legislation, at least. No, this makes the assumption that all millennials would only vote for a millennial. That doesn't make sense. Millennials typically don't have as much political experience. Why would we vote for them? Millennials don't need to be voted into office for their voice to be heard. That's the point of a republic, to elect representatives that reflect your _viewpoints_, not age.
      - Retric 9y ago
        > voting on legislation Requires someone to be in Congress, not be a normal person on election day. Regular voters have very limited direct impact on specific pieces of legislation.
  - jrs95 9y ago
    You're not up to date on the current rhetoric, it's been decided that all white people are in fact to blame. That's probably why you're getting downvoted to hell.
  - lostcolony 9y ago
    Economic forces are due to governmental decisions (baby boomers are the largest generational bloc in congress, and the president is a baby boomer; millenials, however, are the largest living generation) and consumer behavior (baby boomers are set to control 70% of disposable income within 4 years, https://impactbp.com/baby-boomers https://impactbp.com/baby-boomers, and hold 50% of total wealth currently https://dupress.deloitte.com/dup-us-en/industry/investment-management/us-generational-wealth-trends.html https://dupress.deloitte.com/dup-us-en/industry/investment-m...).
AznHisoka 9y ago
Hah, well boomers do take money out of the stock market, while it's millennials putting money in (401K). Boomers take out social security, while it's millennials are paying for it. Personally, it seems like it's the millennials keeping the whole system afloat!
- owebmaster 9y ago
  And it looks like the right logic except the part that boomers feel entitled to complain about everything.
Jaruzel 9y ago
Personally, as a Gen-X, I blame Boomers for everything, and especially Brexit.
- Raffers 9y ago
  If I were to pin the blame on the generations for Brexit, I would actually be more inclined to put that on your generation. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36619342 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36619342
dang 9y ago
Please don't post unsubstantive comments here, especially on flamey windbaggy topics like this one.

Personally, as a Millennial, I blame Boomers for everything.

by jrs95 9y ago

Personally, as a Millennial, I blame Boomers for everything.

Considering Boomers have actual power right now and plenty of time for their influence to spread; it's rational to blame them for a huge range of issues.

TheAdamAndChe 9y ago
> it's rational to blame them for a huge range of issues No, it's not. It's making broad generalizations on a huge group of people. It's like blaming all white people for discrimination or all black people for crime. It's wrong and discriminatory, and makes the assumption that everyone in that group is equally bad. Instead of focusing on a certain age group, focus on the economic forces that gave boomers more opportunity than the younger generations. It's not the age group that's caused the issues, it's those forces.
- Retric 9y ago
  Economics are not separated from politics. The poor diet of most Americans is a direct result of various subsidies given to the farming lobby. Individual choices allow an individual to be fat, but at a national level it takes vast tracts of land. The growth of Chinese manufacturing is in large part a result of trade policies and our vast growing national debt's impact on currency's. Want long term growth? End deficit spending. Our poor heath care system is again based on political choices. The current drug policy and prison system is again an outgrowth of political choices.
  - TheAdamAndChe 9y ago
    Right. I'm not arguing this. What I'm arguing is that blaming all Boomers for these issues is silly. Not all Boomers are in control of the government. Not all Boomers pushed for farming subsidies or pushed manufacturing to China. Not all boomers were white or lived a solidly middle-class life.
    - Retric 9y ago
      A specific subgroup of Boomers are still Boomers. So, yea it might not be every single Boomers fault equally, but that does not change anything it's still the Boomers fault.
      - TheAdamAndChe 9y ago
        That argument can be extended to black people. Blacks statistically commit more crime than whites in America. It's still bad to say that black people are violent, because it's a broad, presumptuous generalization that ignores the forces causing that trend. Along the same vein, it's bad to assume that an entire age group is bad just because some currently run the country.
        Retric 9y ago
        It's important to consider reality even if it seems unpopular. Blacks are convicted of more crimes in the US, that does not mean they commit more crimes. Just look at all the collage students not busted for drugs. We have a long history of intentionally creating systemic issues.
        TheAdamAndChe 9y ago
        Racial discrimination may play a role, but it does not explain the discrepancies in crime rates that we see: https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-amer... I'm not saying that black people commit more crime because they're black. In fact, that's exactly the point I was trying to make: blaming black crime on their skin color is bad because it ignores the socioeconomic forces causing them to commit more crimes than other races with lower poverty levels. Just like how blaming boomers ignores the geopolitical and economic forces that gave them an advantage at the time. Not all black people commit crime, and not all boomers were privileged or lucky in life.
        Retric 9y ago
  - sobellian 9y ago
    Do you consider the growth of Chinese manufacturing to be a bad thing? IMO China's economic growth has also helped US economic growth.
    - Retric 9y ago
      Like most things it's not purely one thing or another. It has propped up the communist party by reducing the suffering of the Chinese population. I have a hard time calling that a bad thing, but it did create many problems.
- heartbreak 9y ago
  There is exactly one "millennial" in Congress, and you've probably never heard of her. I think it's fair to say "millennials" aren't voting on legislation, at least. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elise_Stefanik https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elise_Stefanik
  - TheAdamAndChe 9y ago
    > There is exactly one "millennial" in Congress... I think it's fair to say "millennials" aren't voting on legislation, at least. No, this makes the assumption that all millennials would only vote for a millennial. That doesn't make sense. Millennials typically don't have as much political experience. Why would we vote for them? Millennials don't need to be voted into office for their voice to be heard. That's the point of a republic, to elect representatives that reflect your _viewpoints_, not age.
    - Retric 9y ago
      > voting on legislation Requires someone to be in Congress, not be a normal person on election day. Regular voters have very limited direct impact on specific pieces of legislation.
- jrs95 9y ago
  You're not up to date on the current rhetoric, it's been decided that all white people are in fact to blame. That's probably why you're getting downvoted to hell.
- lostcolony 9y ago
  Economic forces are due to governmental decisions (baby boomers are the largest generational bloc in congress, and the president is a baby boomer; millenials, however, are the largest living generation) and consumer behavior (baby boomers are set to control 70% of disposable income within 4 years, https://impactbp.com/baby-boomers https://impactbp.com/baby-boomers, and hold 50% of total wealth currently https://dupress.deloitte.com/dup-us-en/industry/investment-management/us-generational-wealth-trends.html https://dupress.deloitte.com/dup-us-en/industry/investment-m...).

AznHisoka 9y ago

Hah, well boomers do take money out of the stock market, while it's millennials putting money in (401K). Boomers take out social security, while it's millennials are paying for it. Personally, it seems like it's the millennials keeping the whole system afloat!

owebmaster 9y ago
And it looks like the right logic except the part that boomers feel entitled to complain about everything.

Jaruzel 9y ago

Personally, as a Gen-X, I blame Boomers for everything, and especially Brexit.

Raffers 9y ago
If I were to pin the blame on the generations for Brexit, I would actually be more inclined to put that on your generation. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36619342 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36619342

dang 9y ago

Please don't post unsubstantive comments here, especially on flamey windbaggy topics like this one.