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There's also a major difference between someone saying "hey, no slurs please in my house" and the gov't pointing a gun at you and saying "no slurs ever".
by rtpg 9y ago
There's also a major difference between someone saying "hey, no slurs please in my house" and the gov't pointing a gun at you and saying "no slurs ever".
- apcragg 9y agoIt isn't the government that is doing that. It is society as a group that has decided that "no slurs" is the norm. If you want to use slurs, use them in a subgroup that for whatever reasons deem them acceptable. Don't use them around society as a whole as it has decided that there are social consequences for using them. Again, if you don't like it either campaign to change it or exclude yourself from society but don't conflate the social contract with government authoritarianism.
- ekianjo 9y ago> It is society as a group that has decided that "no slurs" is the norm. Society is not a uniform group with a single way of thinking.
- alphabettsy 9y agoI think you should review the definition of society.
- h0l0cube 9y agoapcragg is probably referring to social mores and the social compact. Ultimately there are conventions, explicit or otherwise, that compel our social interactions.
- ekianjo 9y ago> Ultimately there are conventions, explicit or otherwise, that compel our social interactions. I agree, but as far as I know in the US the spirit behind such interactions is pretty much described in the constitution, and the first amendment makes it very clear that freedom of opinion/expression is paramount, no matter what.
- rtpg 9y agoRight, separating the social contract from the gov't was what I was trying to point out. "in my house" can be replaced with "on my website" or "in my restaurant" for most purposes. There's some stuff about monopolies and access guarantees to utilities.... but for most purposes the discussion is far from those cases I believe.
- camgunz 9y agoNo one's going to jail for using slurs. The rhetoric around this has gotten really heated, especially given that we have many other actual problems (North Korea, global warming) we should be spending our energy on.
- LoSboccacc 9y agoHave you seen uk news recently?
- DanBC 9y agoPlease link to someone who's gone to jail for using a slur, rather than for mounting a campaign of harassment or making credible threats of violence.
- blackbagboys 9y agohttps://www.theverge.com/2016/3/24/11297128/matthew-doyle-arrest-muslim-tweet-brussels https://www.theverge.com/2016/3/24/11297128/matthew-doyle-ar... One of literally dozens if not hundreds of incidents
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