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I completely agree. In the book Reviving Ophelia [1] the author asserts that the most well-adjusted girls were the ones who had plenty of well-defined boundari

by deeg 9y ago

I completely agree. In the book Reviving Ophelia [1] the author asserts that the most well-adjusted girls were the ones who had plenty of well-defined boundaries at home. Rules are good and accepted in the adult world; why would the child world be any different? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reviving_Ophelia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reviving_Ophelia

crankylinuxuser 9y ago
You mean, treat them as good submissives and order them as appropriately? No. Seriously, what would be said about myself if I started making huge sweeping generalizations about a gender? Its bad for males, and its bad for females. Primarily, any effect one "tries" to find is so close to 50% its useless. Tl;Dr. Reviving Ophelia is junk science, meant only to sell more of their books.
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memorymappings 9y ago
Well behaved women rarely make history. This could be precisely the reason why women do so poorly socioeconomically, because they are taught to be endlessly obedient and subservient without question. It may make them well behaved, but it makes for terrible leaders who need to defy societal norms to perpetuate or see through a novel idea or business model, terrible self esteem for STEM fields when women need to feel confident in their own understanding of how things work and be willing to dig into the why's instead of mentally reoienting to the politically correct or expected answer. It's bad for basically every level of Independence that women need to excercise to be socioeconomic equals. Bringing up well behaved women with excessive boundaries in correlation to children is precisely the issue with society. I think I'm going to go ahead and buy that t-shirt that says "raise boys and girls the same way" If boys get to play in the woods and turn their sisters curling irons into backyard bombs, go out late at night then girls should have the same freedom to comfortably practice exploration, tinkering with stuff and breaking stuff and building stuff and roaming about without their mothers worried about where they are going and loading them down with more domestic chores than their male siblings.
- dgudkov 9y ago
  Well behaved women typically make good mothers and this is absolutely immense for the history of humankind.
- deeg 9y ago
  My apologies if my comment appeared to make a distinction between boys and girls; it wasn't my intent. In my opinion the original premise that "rules and obedience are bad" is wrong (for both boys and girls). While this topic is largely subjective I cited the book as supportive of my opinion; that it is based largely on the author's experience with girls is coincidental.

by deeg 9y ago

crankylinuxuser 9y ago

You mean, treat them as good submissives and order them as appropriately? No. Seriously, what would be said about myself if I started making huge sweeping generalizations about a gender? Its bad for males, and its bad for females. Primarily, any effect one "tries" to find is so close to 50% its useless. Tl;Dr. Reviving Ophelia is junk science, meant only to sell more of their books.

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memorymappings 9y ago

Well behaved women rarely make history. This could be precisely the reason why women do so poorly socioeconomically, because they are taught to be endlessly obedient and subservient without question. It may make them well behaved, but it makes for terrible leaders who need to defy societal norms to perpetuate or see through a novel idea or business model, terrible self esteem for STEM fields when women need to feel confident in their own understanding of how things work and be willing to dig into the why's instead of mentally reoienting to the politically correct or expected answer. It's bad for basically every level of Independence that women need to excercise to be socioeconomic equals. Bringing up well behaved women with excessive boundaries in correlation to children is precisely the issue with society. I think I'm going to go ahead and buy that t-shirt that says "raise boys and girls the same way" If boys get to play in the woods and turn their sisters curling irons into backyard bombs, go out late at night then girls should have the same freedom to comfortably practice exploration, tinkering with stuff and breaking stuff and building stuff and roaming about without their mothers worried about where they are going and loading them down with more domestic chores than their male siblings.

dgudkov 9y ago
Well behaved women typically make good mothers and this is absolutely immense for the history of humankind.
deeg 9y ago
My apologies if my comment appeared to make a distinction between boys and girls; it wasn't my intent. In my opinion the original premise that "rules and obedience are bad" is wrong (for both boys and girls). While this topic is largely subjective I cited the book as supportive of my opinion; that it is based largely on the author's experience with girls is coincidental.