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White collar tech bros will not hold up under investigation. A ivy-league mba has way too much to lose to risk going to jail over some stock options. Doing th

White collar tech bros will not hold up under investigation. A ivy-league mba has way too much to lose to risk going to jail over some stock options. Doing this kind of dirt can only survive via staying under the radar-- somebody is gonna flip and this whole house of cards is gonna go down in a stampede of Uber employees rushing to drop the dime on each other.

icebraining 9y ago
This is a civil lawsuit. Why would anyone go to jail?
- warcher 9y ago
  Cause this stuff is illegal and high profile. And Uber has been skating if not nakedly flaunting the law for a long time now. If the DA starts sniffing, people are going to start talking. Furthermore, the odds of the leaks continuing approach certainty at this point. Even in a civil trial, who would perjure themselves over a job? (Pleading the fifth is a potential option even in a civil case, but is real problematic and probably will make a criminal investigation even more likely.)
- gpm 9y ago
  The judge has referred it to the US attorney (prosecutor) for possible criminal prosecution. The big new piece of evidence today (the letter) was given to the judge by the US attorney as relevant evidence they have found. So there is clearly an ongoing criminal investigation into the same thing.
- scott_karana 9y ago
  Evidence of criminal activities could become apparent during a civil trial, and lead to subsequent criminal charges. Plus perjury, etc.
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- woodandsteel 9y ago
  "The letter said an organization within Uber called marketplace analytics “exists expressly for the purpose for acquiring trade secrets, code base and competitive intelligence.” That sure sounds like illegal activity, in fact lots and lots of it.
  - didhshz 9y ago
    It’s a RICO case, no? People organize to do something illegal. RICO
huac 9y ago
> A ivy-league mba has way too much to lose to risk going to jail over some stock options. And yet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raj_Rajaratnam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raj_Rajaratnam and co
saas_co_de 9y ago
Ultimately the engineers who created these tools can be help criminally culpable if they knew or should have known that the tools they were creating were intended for an illegal purpose. It isn't the kind of thing that is likely to get charged but certainly something that investigators can use to put pressure on low level employees and get them to testify against their bosses. Uber has pissed off a lot of people so don't underestimate the "karma" that they have coming to them. Lots up people lining up to piss on their grave while laughing heartily.

icebraining 9y ago

This is a civil lawsuit. Why would anyone go to jail?

warcher 9y ago
Cause this stuff is illegal and high profile. And Uber has been skating if not nakedly flaunting the law for a long time now. If the DA starts sniffing, people are going to start talking. Furthermore, the odds of the leaks continuing approach certainty at this point. Even in a civil trial, who would perjure themselves over a job? (Pleading the fifth is a potential option even in a civil case, but is real problematic and probably will make a criminal investigation even more likely.)
gpm 9y ago
The judge has referred it to the US attorney (prosecutor) for possible criminal prosecution. The big new piece of evidence today (the letter) was given to the judge by the US attorney as relevant evidence they have found. So there is clearly an ongoing criminal investigation into the same thing.
scott_karana 9y ago
Evidence of criminal activities could become apparent during a civil trial, and lead to subsequent criminal charges. Plus perjury, etc.
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woodandsteel 9y ago
"The letter said an organization within Uber called marketplace analytics “exists expressly for the purpose for acquiring trade secrets, code base and competitive intelligence.” That sure sounds like illegal activity, in fact lots and lots of it.
- didhshz 9y ago
  It’s a RICO case, no? People organize to do something illegal. RICO

huac 9y ago

> A ivy-league mba has way too much to lose to risk going to jail over some stock options. And yet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raj_Rajaratnam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raj_Rajaratnam and co

saas_co_de 9y ago

Ultimately the engineers who created these tools can be help criminally culpable if they knew or should have known that the tools they were creating were intended for an illegal purpose. It isn't the kind of thing that is likely to get charged but certainly something that investigators can use to put pressure on low level employees and get them to testify against their bosses. Uber has pissed off a lot of people so don't underestimate the "karma" that they have coming to them. Lots up people lining up to piss on their grave while laughing heartily.