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Libertarianism advocates for the privatization of EVERYTHING and the destruction of the social safety net. Have fun enforcing your property rights when the guy
by buttcoinslol 9y ago
Libertarianism advocates for the privatization of EVERYTHING and the destruction of the social safety net. Have fun enforcing your property rights when the guy with more capital can drain you dry in the private court system. Most people who advocate libertarian ideas would be a serf/slave in a real libertarian paradise. I would also be a serf/slave, I have no illusions about that.
- VMG 9y ago> Libertarianism advocates for the privatization of EVERYTHING and the destruction of the social safety net. The privatization of everything including the social safety net. > Have fun enforcing your property rights when the guy with more capital can drain you dry in the private court system Users of the current court systems are having "fun" too, you know. What's the benchmark here?
- buttcoinslol 9y agoMy point is that wealth stratification under a libertarian system would rapidly approach the 1% owning 90+% instead of the 40% they now hold. Robber Barons, Gilded Age. <--- Read about this era before advocating for libertarian ideas It's hard to have discussions about the present if you don't understand the past.
- VMG 9y ago> Robber Barons, Gilded Age. <--- Read about this era before advocating for libertarian ideas The most rapid increase in prosperity in the history of mankind, where millions of people were lifted out of abject poverty. Currently repeating in other countries that embrace free-market capitalism. What's your point?
- JoeAltmaier 9y agoThe highest class differences ever in America, save the present day. What's your point?
- buttcoinslol 9y agoClass/wealth stratification is bad for everyone. The poor suffer, and if things get bad enough, emperors and their families are gunned down, [1] and the rich are beheaded. [2] Nobody wins. Striving towards a saner wage/wealth gap will have more benefits for society than hyperbolic wealth stratification. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_of_the_Romanov_family https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_of_the_Romanov_famil... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_Terror https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_Terror
- VMG 9y agoYou're making good arguments against communism.
- buttcoinslol 9y agoThe French Revolution predates communism.
- SauciestGNU 9y agoIt's more fair to say he's making good arguments against wealth distribution so bad for the majority that they're willing to kill their masters to have a chance at improving things. If the rich were interested in self-preservation they'd treat wealth inequality as an existential issue.
- knieveltech 9y agoPrivatization of the social safety net? You over there pretending market forces exist that reward resolving starvation, poverty, homelessness, or any of the other myriad social problems caused by class warfare?
- VMG 9y agoMarket forces are the only way to reduce starvation and homelessness.
- givinguflac 9y agoI think pretty much every charity would like a word with you.
- knieveltech 9y agoAs a counter-argument I would like to refer you to every 3rd world country on the planet, systemic (and growing) poverty in the first world, worldwide homelessness, and the handful of oligarchs who's net worth would pay to resolve these issues several times over if their assets were seized and redistributed. What is it you were saying market forces do again?
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