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The punishment is happening before the punished is deemed guilty.

by gkya 9y ago

MBCook 9y ago
There is no LEGAL punishment happening. It’s all social. People can behave how they wish, rightly or wrongly. There isn’t much of a way of stopping at. You could always try suing for libel/slander but even if you win everyone’s going to remember the lie. A big part of the problem is there are so many people with a lot of credibility making these accusations.
- gkya 9y ago
  First of all I'm not questioning the present accusations. I don't even follow them that closely, to be honest. And, I was talking about the social punishment anyways. People can behave how they wish, but that does not mean they should be pushed in a wrong direction by the media and by the accusations before there's a court decision or very strong evidence (like a cam recording, a photo, etc.). It seems to me that you're trying to not understand me, so, my participation in this thread ends here.
  - MBCook 9y ago
    I understand what you’re saying. I simply don’t see another way. I get you’re concerned that if someone were to be given an accusation they could lose their career and then we could find out later that it was all fake. Nothing legal went down, society simply decided to shun them. Outside of making it illegal to publish any kind of accusation in less it has been proven in a court of law… I don’t see how we could avoid people deciding to shun the accused. And maybe that’s fair given the number of women who have had their career is ruined because they chose not to work day in and day out with someone who harassed and/or raped them. Who had to leave the workforce instead, or take another job and start at the bottom of the ladder again. There’s no good solutions to ANY of this. It’s a giant mess. We’ll just have to see how it society sorts it out. In the end the long victimized group has gotten some temporary power. That seems like a step forward even if it raises the possibility of false accusations a small amount.

The punishment is happening before the punished is deemed guilty.

by gkya 9y ago

The punishment is happening before the punished is deemed guilty.

There is no LEGAL punishment happening. It’s all social. People can behave how they wish, rightly or wrongly. There isn’t much of a way of stopping at. You could always try suing for libel/slander but even if you win everyone’s going to remember the lie. A big part of the problem is there are so many people with a lot of credibility making these accusations.

gkya 9y ago
First of all I'm not questioning the present accusations. I don't even follow them that closely, to be honest. And, I was talking about the social punishment anyways. People can behave how they wish, but that does not mean they should be pushed in a wrong direction by the media and by the accusations before there's a court decision or very strong evidence (like a cam recording, a photo, etc.). It seems to me that you're trying to not understand me, so, my participation in this thread ends here.
- MBCook 9y ago
  I understand what you’re saying. I simply don’t see another way. I get you’re concerned that if someone were to be given an accusation they could lose their career and then we could find out later that it was all fake. Nothing legal went down, society simply decided to shun them. Outside of making it illegal to publish any kind of accusation in less it has been proven in a court of law… I don’t see how we could avoid people deciding to shun the accused. And maybe that’s fair given the number of women who have had their career is ruined because they chose not to work day in and day out with someone who harassed and/or raped them. Who had to leave the workforce instead, or take another job and start at the bottom of the ladder again. There’s no good solutions to ANY of this. It’s a giant mess. We’ll just have to see how it society sorts it out. In the end the long victimized group has gotten some temporary power. That seems like a step forward even if it raises the possibility of false accusations a small amount.