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Please don't post this sort of thing on a public forum.

SturgeonsLaw 9y ago
I'm curious why you'd request OP not to post that? I tend to think that all topics should be able to be freely discussed provided they're relevant, and the conversation sincere.
- eesmith 9y ago
  Implicit in your comment is the belief that the OP's comment was relevant and sincere. I don't believe it was. For one, it would mean a huge percentage of the population has a schizotypical personality disorder, or avoidant personality. For another, there is a strong cultural effect on dance popularity. There are areas where dancing is banned due to religious prohibitions. (The movie "Footloose" is based on that premise.) While it's possible that, say, 0.01% of the people may not dance for reasons the OP gave, it's very unlikely that the OP's argument has any significance.
  - eigenstuff 9y ago
    There's also no such thing as "schizotypical" personality disorder. It's schizotypal.
  - b0rsuk 9y ago
    Schizotypal / Schizoid and avoidant are currently much less studied than Asperger's Syndrome (which is becoming glamorous), depression, psychopathy, schizofrenia or bipolar. How do you know ? There are reasons to believe avoidant/schizotypal/schizoid can be related to childhood trauma. More than 0.01% have some kind of childhood trauma, and they mostly go undetected. Zampano from the movie "La Strada" just screams "Schizotypal", but if you put the two in a search engine - it hasn't occurred to anyone.
    - eesmith 9y ago
      Is your argument that there is a strong connection between people who don't want to dance and people who are schizotypal/avoidant? Or are you no longer talking about reasons why a large percentage of the male population does not dance?
      - b0rsuk 9y ago
        I never talked about why a large percentage of the male population does not dance. It was something you invented and put in my mouth. It was a failure of reading comprehension on your part, and you downvoted me for it. I demand an apology. The article was: "Why some men won't dance". (Why some male animals have tails) My post was: "Men who are schizotypal/avoidant don't dance. Read about it to figure out if you are.". (Male cats have tails. Consider you might be a cat.) Your response was: "He's saying all men who don't dance are schizotypal/avoidant!" ("He's saying all male animals are cats!")
        eesmith 9y ago
        "He's saying all men who don't dance are schizotypal/avoidant!" I'm saying that I don't think your statement is diagnostic in any useful sense. While that might be the reason why some (a perhaps small number) males don't dance, there are cultures where men do dance, and cultures where they do not, and these percentages are quite large. As such there must a strong cultural effect on why male do/don't dance, with schizotypal/avoidant behavior a far smaller reason.
aunty_helen 9y ago
Also curious as you don't give much of an explanation?
- inteleng 9y ago
  see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15877188 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15877188.
b0rsuk 9y ago
Why ? Because you're going to bully me ?
- inteleng 9y ago
  No, it was just a test of the HN hivemind. They go nuts with the upvotes when people with all-lowercase usernames say authoritative things, like "please stop," etc. On the other hand, you could have worded your comment a bit better so it didn't seem like you were accusing every reader of having schizotypal personality disorder.

I'm curious why you'd request OP not to post that? I tend to think that all topics should be able to be freely discussed provided they're relevant, and the conversation sincere.

eesmith 9y ago
Implicit in your comment is the belief that the OP's comment was relevant and sincere. I don't believe it was. For one, it would mean a huge percentage of the population has a schizotypical personality disorder, or avoidant personality. For another, there is a strong cultural effect on dance popularity. There are areas where dancing is banned due to religious prohibitions. (The movie "Footloose" is based on that premise.) While it's possible that, say, 0.01% of the people may not dance for reasons the OP gave, it's very unlikely that the OP's argument has any significance.
- eigenstuff 9y ago
  There's also no such thing as "schizotypical" personality disorder. It's schizotypal.
- b0rsuk 9y ago
  Schizotypal / Schizoid and avoidant are currently much less studied than Asperger's Syndrome (which is becoming glamorous), depression, psychopathy, schizofrenia or bipolar. How do you know ? There are reasons to believe avoidant/schizotypal/schizoid can be related to childhood trauma. More than 0.01% have some kind of childhood trauma, and they mostly go undetected. Zampano from the movie "La Strada" just screams "Schizotypal", but if you put the two in a search engine - it hasn't occurred to anyone.
  - eesmith 9y ago
    Is your argument that there is a strong connection between people who don't want to dance and people who are schizotypal/avoidant? Or are you no longer talking about reasons why a large percentage of the male population does not dance?
    - b0rsuk 9y ago
      I never talked about why a large percentage of the male population does not dance. It was something you invented and put in my mouth. It was a failure of reading comprehension on your part, and you downvoted me for it. I demand an apology. The article was: "Why some men won't dance". (Why some male animals have tails) My post was: "Men who are schizotypal/avoidant don't dance. Read about it to figure out if you are.". (Male cats have tails. Consider you might be a cat.) Your response was: "He's saying all men who don't dance are schizotypal/avoidant!" ("He's saying all male animals are cats!")
      - eesmith 9y ago
        "He's saying all men who don't dance are schizotypal/avoidant!" I'm saying that I don't think your statement is diagnostic in any useful sense. While that might be the reason why some (a perhaps small number) males don't dance, there are cultures where men do dance, and cultures where they do not, and these percentages are quite large. As such there must a strong cultural effect on why male do/don't dance, with schizotypal/avoidant behavior a far smaller reason.

aunty_helen 9y ago

Also curious as you don't give much of an explanation?

inteleng 9y ago
see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15877188 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15877188.

b0rsuk 9y ago

Why ? Because you're going to bully me ?

inteleng 9y ago
No, it was just a test of the HN hivemind. They go nuts with the upvotes when people with all-lowercase usernames say authoritative things, like "please stop," etc. On the other hand, you could have worded your comment a bit better so it didn't seem like you were accusing every reader of having schizotypal personality disorder.