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Ok, but there are still paying customers on the end of that infrastructure. Are they not profitable enough?

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Rovanion 9y ago
Since they have local monopolies they can trust they will regain the user but on infrastructure that is cheaper to maintain.
andrewtbham 9y ago
My understanding is rural access is often unprofitable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Service_Fund https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Service_Fund
- imglorp 9y ago
  Yet we've been paying into this fund decades, which was supposed to pay for rural access. Now, Relieving the telcos of this obligation despite them not completing universal access amounts to corporate welfare for those poor starving giants. Then there's E911. Of a bigger concern in rural areas will be losing access to 911. A lot of homes still keep landlines just for the 911 capabilities. Under the old rules the carriers had to demonstrate that customers would still have access to reliable 911, but it seems the carriers can now walk away without worrying about this. This is also a health and safety issue.
  - fencepost 9y ago
    The sparsely populated rural western states will lose the ability to call 911, but maybe it won't matter so much - with a big percentage of those small rural hospitals that depend on part on Medicaid money going under, anyone needing emergency medical treatment is probably going to be looking at a minimum time of 2-3 hours anyway so what's an extra hour or two? But you can count on one thing: "Thanks, Obama!"
abalashov 9y ago
No, not past a certain point of diminishing returns.
sitkack 9y ago
Things that are utilities need to widely available. Power, electricty, water, etc. We grant monopoly status to corporations in exchange for fixed profits and guaranteed service even where not profitable. If we didn't do this, they would have block by block pricing and wouldn't serve areas for arbitrary "reasons" Yet they still continue to shake the people down. I don't think corporations should run anything last mile. The temptation is just too great.
- gjjrfcbugxbhf 9y ago
  Maybe they should compete for the service contracts - but even then cost benefit should compare with insourced provision.

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Since they have local monopolies they can trust they will regain the user but on infrastructure that is cheaper to maintain.

andrewtbham 9y ago

My understanding is rural access is often unprofitable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Service_Fund https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Service_Fund

imglorp 9y ago
Yet we've been paying into this fund decades, which was supposed to pay for rural access. Now, Relieving the telcos of this obligation despite them not completing universal access amounts to corporate welfare for those poor starving giants. Then there's E911. Of a bigger concern in rural areas will be losing access to 911. A lot of homes still keep landlines just for the 911 capabilities. Under the old rules the carriers had to demonstrate that customers would still have access to reliable 911, but it seems the carriers can now walk away without worrying about this. This is also a health and safety issue.
- fencepost 9y ago
  The sparsely populated rural western states will lose the ability to call 911, but maybe it won't matter so much - with a big percentage of those small rural hospitals that depend on part on Medicaid money going under, anyone needing emergency medical treatment is probably going to be looking at a minimum time of 2-3 hours anyway so what's an extra hour or two? But you can count on one thing: "Thanks, Obama!"

abalashov 9y ago

No, not past a certain point of diminishing returns.

sitkack 9y ago

Things that are utilities need to widely available. Power, electricty, water, etc. We grant monopoly status to corporations in exchange for fixed profits and guaranteed service even where not profitable. If we didn't do this, they would have block by block pricing and wouldn't serve areas for arbitrary "reasons" Yet they still continue to shake the people down. I don't think corporations should run anything last mile. The temptation is just too great.

gjjrfcbugxbhf 9y ago
Maybe they should compete for the service contracts - but even then cost benefit should compare with insourced provision.