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Better living through subliminal messages
- appearsonline 9y agoI'm sure this is too raw, to actually works.
- lawlessone 9y agoMaybe the app contains subliminal messages to convince you it works.
- reader51 9y agoI am pretty sure this doesn't work.
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- Iwan-Zotow 9y agofor some people "Fokk off" is a subliminal message
- sctb 9y agoWould you mind taking a look at the guidelines and then following them, please? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- cardmagic 9y agoSubliminal messages have as shoddy a track record as homeopathy. At best this is a placebo effect.
- Rhapso 9y agoI agree that this is likely no better than placebo. I'd argue that a systematic method for _self-aware_ triggering of the placebo effect (without having to pay anybody money for it) is fundamentally valuable.
- pessimizer 9y agoI don't think they're saying that it's a different effect from placebo with the same effect size, but that it's actually the placebo effect. You can't treat yourself with something that you don't believe works and trigger the placebo effect.
- cardmagic 9y agoTechnically placebos still work even when you know they are placebos.[1] [1] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/09/26/placebo-effect-works-even-know-given-dummy-pill/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/09/26/placebo-effect...
- vorotato 9y agoI have used this to personal benefit with "Vitamin Water". More recently I have picked up the even more affordable "Belly breathing" placebo. Now I have a placebo for free and all I have to do is breathe a particular way. Absolutely wonderful.
- QAPereo 9y agoIt’s exactly like homeopathy; it’s nothing. Well, except a dandy way to appeal to desperate and credulous selfhelpers.
- enkiv2 9y agoAs mentioned at the beginning of the article, we're essentially talking about priming. Subliminal advertising and subliminal persuasion is bunk, but spreading activation & other more subtle effects of priming are legitimate. There's literally a whole section in this talking about how media depictions of the effects of priming are based on shoddy mid-century junk science. The article's premise does not rely upon such imaginary effects.
- LeoJiWoo 9y agoI'm extremely skeptical, but it might work for the tiny percentage of people who can be hypnotized.
- binaryapparatus 9y agoIn general, mechanics that works for subliminal messages is different than one used to hypnotize somebody. Level of 'agreement' between those two techniques differ and in my experience success rate is better with subliminal messages.
- cardmagic 9y agoHypnosis has been well researched to be effective. Subliminal messages have been well studied to be bogus.
- teddyh 9y ago— I often hear people say they “can’t be hypnotized” because they tried it once and nothing happened. In my experience – which happens to match what I learned in hypnosis class – an experienced hypnotist can hypnotize anyone, so long as the subject is willing. Where the confusion comes in is that only about 20% of the public can experience what hypnotists sometimes call “the phenomena.” The phenomena describes any situation in which the subject experiences a full-blown illusion, such as seeing something that isn’t there, or feeling something that isn’t real. http://blog.dilbert.com/2017/11/06/win-bigly-bonus-chapter/#more-16700 http://blog.dilbert.com/2017/11/06/win-bigly-bonus-chapter/#...
- binaryapparatus 9y agoReading comments, it is not as black or white as it initially looks. There is definite effect that can be observed, with say 80+% of users. I can't overstate the importance of properly phrasing messages, wrong intention or phrase can be harmful. I am always very careful when trying to help customers how to phrase something. Either way it is not all shoddy and shows results. Author of http://smartcodehq.com/subliminal/ http://smartcodehq.com/subliminal/ here, sorry for the shameless plug.
- cardmagic 9y ago“It works, I swear” says the snake oil salesman.
- binaryapparatus 9y agoAll of the comments on MAS are real user comments, read a few. I don't care if you are ignorant, but ignorant and rude makes dangerous combination.
- pessimizer 9y agoComments on a website should be an extremely low standard of evidence for someone as smart as you are.
- cardmagic 9y agoNo. Ignorant, rude, and swindling people out of their hard earned money with false promises makes a dangerous proposition. Frankly I don’t know how you sleep at night. Just because there’s a placebo effect doesn’t make it effective. Many properly executed double blind studies have debunked what you are selling for decades now.
- binaryapparatus 9y agoMoney is of no importance here, since it doesn't make any meaningful percentage of my earnings. From any angle it is no profit pet project of mine. On the other hand number of 'thank you' emails, from real people all over the world, greatly compensates for development hours. Mechanics is very different from what you imagine it to be, placebo being only small part of the entire process. However it is very tiresome to explain it to somebody who is righteous about topic he doesn't know much about.
- jeffwass 9y agoBack in High School (25 yrs ago, sheesh!) I did a research project on subliminal messages. I found some MS-DOS TSR program that would flash messages on the screen at specified duration or frequency. I told my test subjects (other students) I was testing if typing in vocabulary words helps learn them more efficiently. I made up a set of 50 words and definitions. Each student got a random mix of words and definitions to type in, while other words were flashed on the screen subliminally. I then gave a test which covered both sets of words. I think I originally tested three different subliminal message durations, and one of them was showing a slightly-higher average test score. I then realized I needed a control group, so I tested another batch of students without any subliminal messages at all. The control batch got the highest scores of all. Don't remember details, but I did actual statistics on the data and failed to reject the Null hypothesis. Ie - my conclusion was that flashing word/meaning subliminal messages didn't make any difference to testing those same words in a quiz. It was a fun project, but I realized later it wasn't very scientific. The message duration would actually vary greatly depending on the model of monitor (the old CRT days). And I didn't really have control on how much time the person looked at the screen vs the keyboard. But it was fun anyway. I was also chosen as one of eight high school kids to present at the local county science symposium too.
- mc32 9y agoAhhh, ST and Subliminal. I think there way a time the Ad business thought Subliminal messaging was a worthwhile avenue to pursue to increase effectiveness. I think they abandoned that tack either in the 70s or 80s --though ST came out with that song in the 80s.
- krrrh 9y agoSeeing a Mondo 2000 article posted in 2017 is surprising, but the fact that jwz posted a comment correcting a factual error makes it seem somehow normal.