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You have assumed that the parents' motivation is to 'make it more right'—there's nothing they've written which expresses that. The comment seems to me to be a m

You have assumed that the parents' motivation is to 'make it more right'—there's nothing they've written which expresses that. The comment seems to me to be a much more interesting statement on how we understand the notions of right and wrong in general. People need to be able to discuss this on a philosophical level without automatically being accused of taking one side or the other.

sitkack 9y ago
Remembering that people are complex and nuanced is a thought terminating truism; this is built into the definition of people. The _italics_ doesn't make your comment more poignant. What the quote was eliciting is the idea that we are, "all flawed" and you should look at yourself before you judge, which is utter bullshit. I am flawed (a person), but I can still judge the others and what is acceptable socially to a higher standard than my own (assumed) actions. To not do so is to enter in a pact where we race to the bottom lest be judged to a higher standard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque We each embody multiple simultaneous facets that don't always agree, but they all need to hold society accountable while being individually flawed. And we cannot turn an eye against the flaws for the protection of our selves.
- westoncb 9y ago
  You are adding too much of your own uses and interpretations to the quote. The compartmentalization of an individual's moral actions is an interesting thing to just know about human nature, and it's not as well known as you might think (your simplification to "people are complex and nuanced" is another matter, and I'd agree wouldn't need to be said). I'd wager the typical opinion on the whole lot of recently accused is that we found some 'evil people'—which presents serious difficulties to those who've found their heroes accused, as has probably come up a number of times in connection with Lasseter, for example. > The _italics_ doesn't make your comment more poignant. Not sure why you thought I was shooting for poignance. I was drawing attention to the fact that your statement was based on an assumption, since that was the most important thing and people like to skim.

sitkack 9y ago

Remembering that people are complex and nuanced is a thought terminating truism; this is built into the definition of people. The _italics_ doesn't make your comment more poignant. What the quote was eliciting is the idea that we are, "all flawed" and you should look at yourself before you judge, which is utter bullshit. I am flawed (a person), but I can still judge the others and what is acceptable socially to a higher standard than my own (assumed) actions. To not do so is to enter in a pact where we race to the bottom lest be judged to a higher standard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque We each embody multiple simultaneous facets that don't always agree, but they all need to hold society accountable while being individually flawed. And we cannot turn an eye against the flaws for the protection of our selves.

westoncb 9y ago
You are adding too much of your own uses and interpretations to the quote. The compartmentalization of an individual's moral actions is an interesting thing to just know about human nature, and it's not as well known as you might think (your simplification to "people are complex and nuanced" is another matter, and I'd agree wouldn't need to be said). I'd wager the typical opinion on the whole lot of recently accused is that we found some 'evil people'—which presents serious difficulties to those who've found their heroes accused, as has probably come up a number of times in connection with Lasseter, for example. > The _italics_ doesn't make your comment more poignant. Not sure why you thought I was shooting for poignance. I was drawing attention to the fact that your statement was based on an assumption, since that was the most important thing and people like to skim.