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Sure, some state-run universities are good. But that's just one example. There's many examples of things that govt's fail badly at. And many examples of things

by mnx 9y ago

Sure, some state-run universities are good. But that's just one example. There's many examples of things that govt's fail badly at. And many examples of things they manage OK, sometimes better than the private sector. It's not an closed case either way. I actually would be very worried if the US government were to run Facebook.

amelius 9y ago
My preferred solution would therefore be along these lines: - Universities develop social media algorithms that are provenly secure and respectful of privacy. "Federation" should handle issues of trust over network partitions. - Governments (not a single one) decide if they want to provide computing infrastructure for said algorithms. Alternatively, users could host their own social networks or partitions thereof. - Big companies provide hardware and maintenance. (And that's all they do. I.e., hands off of our valuable data). Basically, that's a lot like how the internet functioned when it just started (Universities and DARPA developing the concepts, and companies doing just hardware).
- varelse 9y ago
  As someone who spent a (wasted) decade in academia finding out a lot of published research was faked, keep your academic hands off of my business models. And keep your government hands off of my algorithms. FB stupidity and greed aside, I still trust the free market over its less-appealing alternatives.
jbreckmckye 9y ago
> There's many examples of things that govt's fail badly at There are also countless examples of privatisation disasters. Source: am British.
- mnx 9y ago
  Yes, obviously. Although those often are to some degree a result of corruption. But I am not claiming the government is universally worse at all things.
  - ska 9y ago
    Although those often are to some degree a result of corruption. It's not clear that this is a useful distinction to make.
- japano1se 9y ago
  It's almost as if boiling something complicated down to "government vs private companies" and saying "one is good and the other is evil" is wrong and stupid.

by mnx 9y ago

amelius 9y ago

My preferred solution would therefore be along these lines: - Universities develop social media algorithms that are provenly secure and respectful of privacy. "Federation" should handle issues of trust over network partitions. - Governments (not a single one) decide if they want to provide computing infrastructure for said algorithms. Alternatively, users could host their own social networks or partitions thereof. - Big companies provide hardware and maintenance. (And that's all they do. I.e., hands off of our valuable data). Basically, that's a lot like how the internet functioned when it just started (Universities and DARPA developing the concepts, and companies doing just hardware).

varelse 9y ago
As someone who spent a (wasted) decade in academia finding out a lot of published research was faked, keep your academic hands off of my business models. And keep your government hands off of my algorithms. FB stupidity and greed aside, I still trust the free market over its less-appealing alternatives.

jbreckmckye 9y ago

> There's many examples of things that govt's fail badly at There are also countless examples of privatisation disasters. Source: am British.

mnx 9y ago
Yes, obviously. Although those often are to some degree a result of corruption. But I am not claiming the government is universally worse at all things.
- ska 9y ago
  Although those often are to some degree a result of corruption. It's not clear that this is a useful distinction to make.
japano1se 9y ago
It's almost as if boiling something complicated down to "government vs private companies" and saying "one is good and the other is evil" is wrong and stupid.