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She explains this in her FAQ: https://pastebin.com/V3474kYs https://pastebin.com/V3474kYs tldr: articles and interviews are proofread and corrected by english

by kawera 9y ago

She explains this in her FAQ: https://pastebin.com/V3474kYs https://pastebin.com/V3474kYs tldr: articles and interviews are proofread and corrected by english native speakers.

seanmcdirmid 9y ago
Which is also not uncommon. I did the same for my Chinese colleagues when working in Beijing.
- jacquesm 9y ago
  I do the same for my reports. And that's simply because I want to deliver the best work possible, even if my customers would most likely be more than happy with the version that I would give them directly. Not having your stuff proofread when it is for public consumption is unprofessional.
  - seanmcdirmid 9y ago
    I was a researcher, so it wasn important for the team to submit papers with good English in them. Doubly so for double blind submissions, where you want to mask that the paper is coming from china to avoid reviewer bias against chinese papers.
    - jacquesm 9y ago
      wasn? was?
rorykoehler 9y ago
Even native english speakers get their articles proofread. It's a standard part of a any semi/professional publishing process.
YeGoblynQueenne 9y ago
You're right and I remember reading that at some point, but to be honest I wouldn't have looked for an explanation if one was not provided. In the interest of full disclosure, I am myself a migrant in an English-speaking country (a Greek living in the UK). I know first hand that there is a big difference between having been taught English as a foreign language, and actually using it to speak with native English speakers day-in and day-out. My first years over here I had real trouble talking to people and making myself understood, or understanding them, although at the same time I was perfectly fine reading English literature and textbooks, participating in lectures and writing university assignments. I believe many foreign students (if not all of them) had the same issue. There's an assumption that the way you speak a language reflects your general intellectual skills, but when it comes to non-native speakers it's just wrong. People taught a language as a foreign language acquire oral and written literacy skills in a different order and pace than native speakers. For instance- two friends of mine can read and write Japanese, but can't speak or understand it when spoken. Basically, speech can be much harder than text for foreign speakers. So using the disparity between oral and written skills was already a very shaky piece of "evidence" in the original claim- even before reading Naomi Wu's explanation. It reminded me of classic conspiracy theorists looking at the shadows in pictures of the moon landings.

by kawera 9y ago

She explains this in her FAQ: https://pastebin.com/V3474kYs https://pastebin.com/V3474kYs tldr: articles and interviews are proofread and corrected by english native speakers.

seanmcdirmid 9y ago

Which is also not uncommon. I did the same for my Chinese colleagues when working in Beijing.

jacquesm 9y ago
I do the same for my reports. And that's simply because I want to deliver the best work possible, even if my customers would most likely be more than happy with the version that I would give them directly. Not having your stuff proofread when it is for public consumption is unprofessional.
- seanmcdirmid 9y ago
  I was a researcher, so it wasn important for the team to submit papers with good English in them. Doubly so for double blind submissions, where you want to mask that the paper is coming from china to avoid reviewer bias against chinese papers.
  - jacquesm 9y ago
    wasn? was?

rorykoehler 9y ago

Even native english speakers get their articles proofread. It's a standard part of a any semi/professional publishing process.

YeGoblynQueenne 9y ago

You're right and I remember reading that at some point, but to be honest I wouldn't have looked for an explanation if one was not provided. In the interest of full disclosure, I am myself a migrant in an English-speaking country (a Greek living in the UK). I know first hand that there is a big difference between having been taught English as a foreign language, and actually using it to speak with native English speakers day-in and day-out. My first years over here I had real trouble talking to people and making myself understood, or understanding them, although at the same time I was perfectly fine reading English literature and textbooks, participating in lectures and writing university assignments. I believe many foreign students (if not all of them) had the same issue. There's an assumption that the way you speak a language reflects your general intellectual skills, but when it comes to non-native speakers it's just wrong. People taught a language as a foreign language acquire oral and written literacy skills in a different order and pace than native speakers. For instance- two friends of mine can read and write Japanese, but can't speak or understand it when spoken. Basically, speech can be much harder than text for foreign speakers. So using the disparity between oral and written skills was already a very shaky piece of "evidence" in the original claim- even before reading Naomi Wu's explanation. It reminded me of classic conspiracy theorists looking at the shadows in pictures of the moon landings.