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If someone nailed discussion search, I'd have no use for Google for 90% of my searching. As it is, most of my searches are a series of: site:<reddit/ycombinato
by tspike 9y ago
If someone nailed discussion search, I'd have no use for Google for 90% of my searching. As it is, most of my searches are a series of:
site:<reddit/ycombinator/stackoverflow/tripadvisor/random niche forum.com> "something someone interested in the same question/topic would say"
.. all in an attempt to filter over-commercialized bullshit. There's an opportunity here for a startup to capture an audience hungry for real information and leverage them into becoming the next hub for over-commercialized bullshit.
- dvddgld 9y agoI use the same kind of search for most of my searching. Does anyone have any tips to add to this? e.g specific sites for any particular demands, or any other tricks
- fosco 9y agoFiletype: is also a favorite of mine. One thing to note when using filetype in bing by specifying xls it also catches other file extensions (xlsx) while google in my experience only would find xls. Yes I use bing sometimes and especially when troubleshooting Linux error logs I find it parses a copy paste better. Just my experience. Important to note I do not use profiles.
- dvddgld 9y agoThanks for the tips! I need to try bing more often
- tomashertus 9y agoI highly recommend to look for real examples on Google Hacking Database[1] for more tips & hacks. The audience of this site are mostly people looking to use google to find exploitable websites, but it shows techniques used to narrow your Google Search. 1. https://www.exploit-db.com/google-hacking-database/ https://www.exploit-db.com/google-hacking-database/
- dvddgld 9y agoOh wow, thanks for the tip!
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- ehnto 9y agoThat's been the most annoying part of search for a while now. Most searches result in hyper commercialised results, with SEO heavy sites winning out, and of course SEO heavy sites are going to be sites selling you stuff. If you're searching for a real human's thoughts on a particular mountain bike for one example, it will be nothing but product pages. Add in the word Reviews and you get the productized review sites. Even searching for "Best trails in {my area}" gives me an ecommerce site's blog laden with product links and not-so-subtle sells. Want to read a discussion about a book? Google will only show you product pages with review sections on the first page, on the next page the search results have already devolved into unrelated nonsense or spin sites. It's hard to find the humans on the internet through all the commercial pages. I can't blame Google entirely of course, they are helped by the SEO industry's incessant bombardment in the 2010ish era that filled the web with so much pointless crap, and the ongoing efforts of e-commerce stores with deep pockets to be the only heard voice for particular subjects.
- doomlaser 9y agoI do a lot of Twitter searches for that kind of thing when I want raw feedback about a particular topic. I've had a 't' custom search engine address bar hotkey for Twitter for years.
- md224 9y agoKind of interesting how searching social network content can often be more useful than searching the entire Internet. Edit: makes me wonder if the web is evolving in the direction of more social/curated search, less global search
- Trav5 9y agoYeah, social media is just too easy to use (and free). When people take the time to make a website, they often commercialize it, then it's not really a personal website anymore.
- rorykoehler 9y agoThe issue here is that the same companies who can afford good SEO can afford Google Adwords. While a search engine that can find you non-commercial information would be very useful it is, un-ironically, very hard to find a commercially viable business model for such a service. The profit incentive that needs to be attached to everything in a our current commercialist world really narrows the scope of feasibility for potentially cool services.
- astonex 9y agoIf you look at Naver Search in Korea, most of their search results focus on results from community discussion sites (called cafes), blogs, etc. instead of commercial websites.
- elsewhen 9y agohttps://hn.algolia.com/ https://hn.algolia.com/
- nine_k 9y agoI wonder what payment model so you envision for such a search. I mean, even if you're a nonprofit only caring about the benefit of humankind, you'll need to cover operations expenses.
- tspike 9y agoI'd pay $20/month if it was actually good.
- sharemywin 9y agoand how much would you pay for that search? Nothing because google has devalued it to zero because it subsidizes it with product and service search.
- tspike 9y agoIf it were a top notch product, I'd probably pay $20/month for it.
- madisfun 9y ago> site:<reddit/ycombinator/stackoverflow/tripadvisor/random niche forum.com> "something someone interested in the same question/topic would say" That's why I keep ddg.gg as my default search engine. Ctrl-K, and type: !r "something" !hn "something" !so "something" !ta "something" And for some niche sites I submitted "bang" suggestions which were accepted. Works great for technical search, e.g. !cppr for C++ reference. In a rare case I need Google, I just add !g to my search.