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I wonder if Linux machines would start getting more traction then, as everyone wouldn't just have the excuse that they might as well buy a Windows machine and t

by mtgx 9y ago

I wonder if Linux machines would start getting more traction then, as everyone wouldn't just have the excuse that they might as well buy a Windows machine and then get to use either Windows or Linux if they want. Post-2020 a greater number of people may actually be forced to choose Linux. I'd rather we weren't forced to validate this theory of mine, but I'm cautiously optimistic about it.

wmf 9y ago
Yeah, every time you buy a Windows PC and install Linux, you're telling the market you want Windows and you're starving the Linux ecosystem of revenue that could be used for better hardware support.
- joe_the_user 9y ago
  Unless you can buy a laptop with no OS for less than I can buy a laptop with Windows, buying from Linux ecosystem is going to be essentially an act of charity.
  - wmf 9y ago
    IIRC Dell is now charging less for Linux than Windows.
    - eat_veggies 9y ago
      Do you have a link? I'm in the market for a new laptop right now and a cheaper Dell with Linux installed sounds optimal.
      - akubera 9y ago
        Here's an example of one of the options, it's ~$100 less if configured with Ubuntu-16.04: http://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/new-precision-3520/spd/precision-15-3520-laptop/xctop3520hwus_2 http://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-laptops-and-noteboo... Canonical posted a short review of the available Dell models recently: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/11/14/new-dell-precision-machines-available-with-ubuntu-pre-installed/ https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/11/14/new-dell-precision-ma... (HN on the article https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15702680 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15702680)
        joe_the_user 9y ago
        The prices I see on this link are on the other side of $1k where a perfectly adequate for Windows (and adequate for Linux with 5 hours of fighting) laptop can be bought for less than $300. That the high-power laptop has a $100 discount doesn't seem like the incentive I was originally mentioning. I mean, sure, if and only if you were going to buy a laptop of that power level, then buying from the "Linux ecosystem" but otherwise, it seems like a moral gesture.
  - fulafel 9y ago
    You frequently can, at least for Lenovo/Dell/Asus laptops.
- Tangy92 9y ago
  What market though? How do you buy Linux?
  - wmf 9y ago
    Dell, System76, Purism, etc.

by mtgx 9y ago

wmf 9y ago

Yeah, every time you buy a Windows PC and install Linux, you're telling the market you want Windows and you're starving the Linux ecosystem of revenue that could be used for better hardware support.

joe_the_user 9y ago
Unless you can buy a laptop with no OS for less than I can buy a laptop with Windows, buying from Linux ecosystem is going to be essentially an act of charity.
- wmf 9y ago
  IIRC Dell is now charging less for Linux than Windows.
  - eat_veggies 9y ago
    Do you have a link? I'm in the market for a new laptop right now and a cheaper Dell with Linux installed sounds optimal.
    - akubera 9y ago
      Here's an example of one of the options, it's ~$100 less if configured with Ubuntu-16.04: http://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/new-precision-3520/spd/precision-15-3520-laptop/xctop3520hwus_2 http://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-laptops-and-noteboo... Canonical posted a short review of the available Dell models recently: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/11/14/new-dell-precision-machines-available-with-ubuntu-pre-installed/ https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/11/14/new-dell-precision-ma... (HN on the article https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15702680 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15702680)
      - joe_the_user 9y ago
        The prices I see on this link are on the other side of $1k where a perfectly adequate for Windows (and adequate for Linux with 5 hours of fighting) laptop can be bought for less than $300. That the high-power laptop has a $100 discount doesn't seem like the incentive I was originally mentioning. I mean, sure, if and only if you were going to buy a laptop of that power level, then buying from the "Linux ecosystem" but otherwise, it seems like a moral gesture.
- fulafel 9y ago
  You frequently can, at least for Lenovo/Dell/Asus laptops.
Tangy92 9y ago
What market though? How do you buy Linux?
- wmf 9y ago
  Dell, System76, Purism, etc.