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I eat centrophenoxine and racetams and meditate ~daily. I quit drinking/using anything stronger than caffeine. Try to be good to myself.
by ninjakeyboard 9y ago
I eat centrophenoxine and racetams and meditate ~daily. I quit drinking/using anything stronger than caffeine. Try to be good to myself.
- bdamm 9y agoHow long have you been taking Centrophenoxine?
- ninjakeyboard 9y ago3 years or so.
- intro-b 9y agosame as me, in addition to daily aerobic exercise, a lot of walking, and trying to maintain a strong social circle
- amelius 9y agoWow, just read this on Wikipedia: > Meclofenoxate (centrophenoxine), as well as DMAE, have been found to increase the lifespans of mice by 30–50%, and thus may be anti-aging drugs/supplements. Are you taking it for a specific reason? Or do you consider this a generally good supplement?
- a_imho 9y agoI also found it interesting and checked the cited source, it also says Using very much higher doses than Nandy or Hochschild, Harman reported a decrease in lifespans of treated animals (he may have given an overdose long term)
- ninjakeyboard 9y agoI take it as a choline supplement, nootropic, and companion to racetams (especially oxiracetam.)
- hannob 9y ago> Wow, just read this on Wikipedia: > > Meclofenoxate (centrophenoxine), as well as DMAE, have been found to increase the lifespans of mice by 30–50%, and thus may be anti-aging drugs/supplements. Have you also checked the source? It's not a scientific publication, it's a claim from a book by a quack.
- jz_ 9y ago> Have you also checked the source? It's not a scientific publication That's probably something to do with Wikipedia's editing guidelines these days. They have a rule against using primary research citations. Only literature reviews, books, and other secondary sources are acceptable. I found the original source for the claim, which may be no better for supporting the claim for a number of reasons (why has this not been replicated, or did replication fail?): http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0531556573900247 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/05315565739... Effect of dimethylaminoethyl p-chlorophenoxyacetate on the lifespan of male Swiss Webster albino mice, J Exp Gerontol 8: 177, 1973 Author: R. Hochschild of "Microware Instruments Co" of California. doi (for sci-hub): 10.1016/0531-5565(73)90024-7 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0531556573900247 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/05315565739... Note: If anyone is actually interested in the field of biogerontology, I recommend following the https://www.fightaging.org https://www.fightaging.org blog for editorialisation of news and research papers coming out of the field.
- charlieflowers 9y ago> That's probably something to do with Wikipedia's editing guidelines these days. They have a rule against using primary research citations. Jeez. I haven't paid much attention, but every time I hear something about Wikipedia's editing guidelines, they're getting it horribly wrong.
- keganunderwood 9y agoSorry for off topic but it is a difficult topic and goes beyond Wikipedia. I read on hacker news the complaints that many (even peer reviewed) studies are never reproduced because there is no incentive to reproduce/verify someone else's work. Also, I've read that the "sugar lobby" may have been behind previous studies linking eating fatty food with obesity. Given these facts, how do we create guidelines that allow original research?