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>>> The Baby Bidet Just wanted to say that I love this space. Smart products targeting ages 0-5. As well as smart business models to reduce waste. And promote

by indescions_2017 9y ago

>>> The Baby Bidet Just wanted to say that I love this space. Smart products targeting ages 0-5. As well as smart business models to reduce waste. And promote recycling of baby products. One example: Owlet smart sock monitor https://owletcare.com/ https://owletcare.com/

kcorbitt 9y ago
Totally. As the father of an 18-month-old, as soon as I saw the baby bidet idea I really wished it existed!
ynniv 9y ago
Yes, but (1) our nursery doesn't have a sink and our sink doesn't have room for baby things, and (2) holding a squirming baby over a bidet doesn't sound less messy to me. There's a lot of potential in the space, but this particular one needs practical user testing.
dctoedt 9y ago
A better idea would be to funnel the "rinse" water into some kind of container from which it could be disposed of in the toilet as opposed to the sink. I can just hear my wife saying "not in my [bathroom or, worse, kitchen] sink you're not going to do that!"
elechi 9y ago
Wouldn't a hand-held faucet inside a farmer's sink basically be the same thing?
- Nition 9y ago
  There are bidet-like sprayers for spraying poop off of cloth nappies into the toilet[1]. There are also similar actual bidet attachments for toilets for adults[2]. I was thinking you could almost do the same thing as those and just make it smaller and low pressure. [1] e.g. https://www.amazon.com/SmarterFresh-Diaper-Sprayer-Premium-Stainless/dp/B014V793E6 https://www.amazon.com/SmarterFresh-Diaper-Sprayer-Premium-S... [2] e.g. https://www.amazon.com/RinseWorks-Certified-Warranty-Pressure-Controls/dp/B01CF51ZJ2 https://www.amazon.com/RinseWorks-Certified-Warranty-Pressur...
dpeck 9y ago
Baby Bidet is interesting, and anyone who has changed a diaper is probably brainstorming as they read this. I could see it being something at mounts over the top of a toilet and the baby is covered around their waist with something like a kayak skirt. You'd need a foolproof way to do temperature control, either requiring: - a hot water line, usually not far from toilet but requires plumbing which is out for most people - precision heater and needs to be plugged in and will probably make people unhappy with its heat up speed unless its 220v Good place to start prototyping might be to get a bunch of bumbo seats and start cutting the seats out of them enough to allow water flow but still give support so the little one isn't falling into the bowl. Thinking about it more, step one for newborns that can't sit up yet could just be a changing table with a nice padded surface that drains directly into a toilet. That could really be a great product, hope someone makes a run at that.
- toomuchtodo 9y ago
  > That could really be a great product, hope someone makes a run at that. You better make sure your insurance is bought and your engineering is on point: the first time your product scalds a baby is the end of your incredible journey.
  - dpeck 9y ago
    yeah, that and inadequate support that leads to a child falling in some way seems like biggest risks and would need to be heavily accounted for. For safety of the child might want to make it human driven with having the caretaker adjust the temp with a standard shower valve configuration combined with a built in cut off for anything above 105 F (or whatever scald temperature is, but I recall it being somewhere around there when I went through all the safety research with my son)
- ballenf 9y ago
  As a parent of several kids, diaper changing really seems like a solved problem. With a little practice it takes literally seconds for a wet diaper and a couple minutes for poo. The most time consuming part of it all is the clothing unsnapping, re-snapping with winter clothing on. Finally, the hardest part about the washing is getting the baby dry after to prevent rashes, not getting them clean. A couple flushable, bio-degradable wipes. The last thing I want as a parent is another gadget that needs maintenance and/or refills.
gowld 9y ago
Also, Smart Pipe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJklHwoYgBQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJklHwoYgBQ
- GoodOldNe 9y ago
  Came here to post this. My favorite caricature of SV culture.
misthop 9y ago
On the topic of the owlet - My twins were in the NICU for 4 and 7 weeks respectively. The nurses there spend the bulk of non-feeding time checking on and (almost always) turning off heart/respiration/pulse ox alerts. The alarms are not false positives, the values they are alerting are falling outside the norm range, but the nurses know that that _is_ normal. A number of new parents to the nicu would rush to get the nurses attention with every alert until the parents understood that the nurses are professionals and the alerts are, well, dumb.
- jroseattle 9y ago
  Similar story -- my twins were in the NICU for 3 weeks. The alarms at first had us on edge. After a few days, they became white noise.
- sjg007 9y ago
  Yeah owlet does seem like a strange product for most people. A cynic would say it's a money grab for anxious parents. You can get medical grade monitors for high risk kids where SIDs is likely. But hopefully they get their 510k and show clinical utility as well as help research SIDs in general with expanded access.
jwkellyiii 9y ago
No offense, but as a father of an 11 month old, the baby bidet is a terrible idea. Causes of concern / thoughts: 1. Is the bidet going to hold the baby, suspended in place, with a water shield, so I can direct the water where it needs to clean? Because if not, their is no way I can hold said baby and spray / clean with one hand. As new parents know, the water will need to get in many, many places and needs to be direct-able. 2. As new parents know, the moment the diaper comes off, things go everywhere. So is this bidet going to strip my kids cloths and diaper before spraying? Or would I have to strip and then place the kid? To many logistical issues if the latter.... 3. Safety. Temperature. Pressure. Direction. Spillage. DIY Plumping. Etc. To many hurdles. Not all kids sit still, even when you are changing them. Using a bidet just seems one of those ideas that might appeal to the 1% with a team of nannies, but to us regular folk, I'll stick with a changing mat and wipes, it is just easier....

kcorbitt 9y ago

Totally. As the father of an 18-month-old, as soon as I saw the baby bidet idea I really wished it existed!

ynniv 9y ago

Yes, but (1) our nursery doesn't have a sink and our sink doesn't have room for baby things, and (2) holding a squirming baby over a bidet doesn't sound less messy to me. There's a lot of potential in the space, but this particular one needs practical user testing.

dctoedt 9y ago

A better idea would be to funnel the "rinse" water into some kind of container from which it could be disposed of in the toilet as opposed to the sink. I can just hear my wife saying "not in my [bathroom or, worse, kitchen] sink you're not going to do that!"

elechi 9y ago

Wouldn't a hand-held faucet inside a farmer's sink basically be the same thing?

Nition 9y ago
There are bidet-like sprayers for spraying poop off of cloth nappies into the toilet[1]. There are also similar actual bidet attachments for toilets for adults[2]. I was thinking you could almost do the same thing as those and just make it smaller and low pressure. [1] e.g. https://www.amazon.com/SmarterFresh-Diaper-Sprayer-Premium-Stainless/dp/B014V793E6 https://www.amazon.com/SmarterFresh-Diaper-Sprayer-Premium-S... [2] e.g. https://www.amazon.com/RinseWorks-Certified-Warranty-Pressure-Controls/dp/B01CF51ZJ2 https://www.amazon.com/RinseWorks-Certified-Warranty-Pressur...

dpeck 9y ago

Baby Bidet is interesting, and anyone who has changed a diaper is probably brainstorming as they read this. I could see it being something at mounts over the top of a toilet and the baby is covered around their waist with something like a kayak skirt. You'd need a foolproof way to do temperature control, either requiring: - a hot water line, usually not far from toilet but requires plumbing which is out for most people - precision heater and needs to be plugged in and will probably make people unhappy with its heat up speed unless its 220v Good place to start prototyping might be to get a bunch of bumbo seats and start cutting the seats out of them enough to allow water flow but still give support so the little one isn't falling into the bowl. Thinking about it more, step one for newborns that can't sit up yet could just be a changing table with a nice padded surface that drains directly into a toilet. That could really be a great product, hope someone makes a run at that.

toomuchtodo 9y ago
> That could really be a great product, hope someone makes a run at that. You better make sure your insurance is bought and your engineering is on point: the first time your product scalds a baby is the end of your incredible journey.
- dpeck 9y ago
  yeah, that and inadequate support that leads to a child falling in some way seems like biggest risks and would need to be heavily accounted for. For safety of the child might want to make it human driven with having the caretaker adjust the temp with a standard shower valve configuration combined with a built in cut off for anything above 105 F (or whatever scald temperature is, but I recall it being somewhere around there when I went through all the safety research with my son)
ballenf 9y ago
As a parent of several kids, diaper changing really seems like a solved problem. With a little practice it takes literally seconds for a wet diaper and a couple minutes for poo. The most time consuming part of it all is the clothing unsnapping, re-snapping with winter clothing on. Finally, the hardest part about the washing is getting the baby dry after to prevent rashes, not getting them clean. A couple flushable, bio-degradable wipes. The last thing I want as a parent is another gadget that needs maintenance and/or refills.

gowld 9y ago

Also, Smart Pipe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJklHwoYgBQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJklHwoYgBQ

GoodOldNe 9y ago
Came here to post this. My favorite caricature of SV culture.

misthop 9y ago

On the topic of the owlet - My twins were in the NICU for 4 and 7 weeks respectively. The nurses there spend the bulk of non-feeding time checking on and (almost always) turning off heart/respiration/pulse ox alerts. The alarms are not false positives, the values they are alerting are falling outside the norm range, but the nurses know that that _is_ normal. A number of new parents to the nicu would rush to get the nurses attention with every alert until the parents understood that the nurses are professionals and the alerts are, well, dumb.

jroseattle 9y ago
Similar story -- my twins were in the NICU for 3 weeks. The alarms at first had us on edge. After a few days, they became white noise.
sjg007 9y ago
Yeah owlet does seem like a strange product for most people. A cynic would say it's a money grab for anxious parents. You can get medical grade monitors for high risk kids where SIDs is likely. But hopefully they get their 510k and show clinical utility as well as help research SIDs in general with expanded access.

jwkellyiii 9y ago

No offense, but as a father of an 11 month old, the baby bidet is a terrible idea. Causes of concern / thoughts: 1. Is the bidet going to hold the baby, suspended in place, with a water shield, so I can direct the water where it needs to clean? Because if not, their is no way I can hold said baby and spray / clean with one hand. As new parents know, the water will need to get in many, many places and needs to be direct-able. 2. As new parents know, the moment the diaper comes off, things go everywhere. So is this bidet going to strip my kids cloths and diaper before spraying? Or would I have to strip and then place the kid? To many logistical issues if the latter.... 3. Safety. Temperature. Pressure. Direction. Spillage. DIY Plumping. Etc. To many hurdles. Not all kids sit still, even when you are changing them. Using a bidet just seems one of those ideas that might appeal to the 1% with a team of nannies, but to us regular folk, I'll stick with a changing mat and wipes, it is just easier....