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and the demographics of the offenders are.....?

by PeekPoke 9y ago

peapicker 9y ago
This is important and often omitted information by journos.
- chii 9y ago
  When you want to push an agenda, doing it by omission is the easiest way.
  - raker 9y ago
    Yesterday's Chinese Social Media propaganda article is an interesting application of this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15708560 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15708560
mythrwy 9y ago
From the article: "survey contains no answers as to why a certain type of crime increases, and analysis is needed to improve understanding of the reasons for the increase, it said." I'm guessing the average Swede has already done this "analysis" but hey, you can never have too many high paid think tanks :)
dguaraglia 9y ago
and the assumption that demographics rather than socioeconomic background drives people's behavior is called... ? (Hint: starts with "b" and ends in "bigotry")
- porfirium 9y ago
  Being poor makes you rape. It's logic.
  - folknor 9y ago
    It also obviously excuses your behavior regardless of what you do. Let's say you're a selfmade man with working class background parents, and you worked two jobs while going to school, and now operate and run your own business, making enough money to support your family and have a nice life. Apparently, because someone comes from a different socioeconomic background, they're entitled to take whatever they want from you. It's logic.
    - dguaraglia 9y ago
      Wow, nice way to setup a really weak straw man! It's got the whole self-made man story there just for extra "relatable" points. Amazing job! I didn't realize that now pointing something out is condoning it. Would you say that by pointing out demographics might be playing a factor, the original poster was condoning their behavior?
  - dguaraglia 9y ago
    Being foreign makes you rape. It's logic. How about: "we don't even know who the alleged rapists are, so maybe we shouldn't form an opinion on their skin color being different before we jump to conclusions"?
  - sctb 9y ago
    If you won't start commenting civilly and substantively we'll ban this account like the others. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
raker 9y ago
I've heard that it's the Swedish government itself that is hiding those answers. Can that accusation be substantiated?
- lj3 9y ago
  Yes, it can. There are still people on the ground in Sweden with cell phones, like PeterSweden[0]. [0]: https://twitter.com/PeterSweden7/ https://twitter.com/PeterSweden7/
- deleted 9y ago
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and the demographics of the offenders are.....?

peapicker 9y ago

This is important and often omitted information by journos.

chii 9y ago
When you want to push an agenda, doing it by omission is the easiest way.
- raker 9y ago
  Yesterday's Chinese Social Media propaganda article is an interesting application of this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15708560 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15708560

mythrwy 9y ago

From the article: "survey contains no answers as to why a certain type of crime increases, and analysis is needed to improve understanding of the reasons for the increase, it said." I'm guessing the average Swede has already done this "analysis" but hey, you can never have too many high paid think tanks :)

dguaraglia 9y ago

and the assumption that demographics rather than socioeconomic background drives people's behavior is called... ? (Hint: starts with "b" and ends in "bigotry")

porfirium 9y ago
Being poor makes you rape. It's logic.
- folknor 9y ago
  It also obviously excuses your behavior regardless of what you do. Let's say you're a selfmade man with working class background parents, and you worked two jobs while going to school, and now operate and run your own business, making enough money to support your family and have a nice life. Apparently, because someone comes from a different socioeconomic background, they're entitled to take whatever they want from you. It's logic.
  - dguaraglia 9y ago
    Wow, nice way to setup a really weak straw man! It's got the whole self-made man story there just for extra "relatable" points. Amazing job! I didn't realize that now pointing something out is condoning it. Would you say that by pointing out demographics might be playing a factor, the original poster was condoning their behavior?
- dguaraglia 9y ago
  Being foreign makes you rape. It's logic. How about: "we don't even know who the alleged rapists are, so maybe we shouldn't form an opinion on their skin color being different before we jump to conclusions"?
- sctb 9y ago
  If you won't start commenting civilly and substantively we'll ban this account like the others. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

raker 9y ago

I've heard that it's the Swedish government itself that is hiding those answers. Can that accusation be substantiated?

lj3 9y ago
Yes, it can. There are still people on the ground in Sweden with cell phones, like PeterSweden[0]. [0]: https://twitter.com/PeterSweden7/ https://twitter.com/PeterSweden7/
deleted 9y ago
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