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What I find interesting is when you have parental controls on, and your playing a kids video, the advertisements are not something a kid should be shown.

by tmaly 9y ago

headmelted 9y ago
This. My kid was watching an official kids channel inside the YouTube Kids app (I honestly don't remember which, but it was affiliated with a local TV channel). I have the parental control settings configured - and I had to snatch it off him when I saw a red band title card come up in the ad break. Turned out it was for the IT remake. Couldn't believe it, but lesson learned. This needs serious work.
- platetone 9y ago
  My kids get to learn about living with HIV almost every time we watch Peppa Pig with a 3+ minute long commercial of monologues with people suffering from HIV. Also one time we got an American conservative extremist group video ad railing against transgender rights. And violent video game ads all the time. I signed up for YouTube Red for a free month of no commercials and it was great. I'm wondering if maybe YouTube is doing this to nudge parents into signing up for their premium service to avoids disturbing ads during kid viewing time. $10/month really isn't that bad and I'm considering just having it part my monthly digital fee schedule.
  - Symbiote 9y ago
    Maybe get a VPN to a small country. As an English speaker in Denmark, half the adverts I see on YouTube are from the same company, offering English writing review. Others are either luxury cars or in Danish (broadband, holidays). I don't think it would be Denmark's style to have an HIV thing on YouTube.
    - wodenokoto 9y ago
      We can be pretty aggressive with that kind of thing too. Remember "ulandskalenderen" on TV? For those who don't know, it was a TV documentary series that would air everyday between the 1st and 24th of december, and would typically follow a child worker in the 3rd world. Boys working in mines. It was shown during the kids programming on national TV. I distinctly remember the story of a young girl who weaved carpets for a living and was about to loose her job because her boss thought her new born baby took too much of her time - a baby he was the father of!
  - sundvor 9y ago
    I too feel like their violent ads (Australian WorkSafe ads are the stuff of nightmares for a child) are a way to force me to subscribe to Red. And that's even with YouTube for kids.
richmarr 9y ago
It reminds me of the surprisingly-high proportion of content available without subtitles/captions. It's 2017 and plenty of people are deaf, and yet the BBC, Netflix, Amazon, etc. regularly pretend this section of their audience doesn't exist. My guess is that is an instance of poor diversity within the team that set the early direction for YouTube. Maybe a team with a higher proportion of parents respresented might have made different decisions.
- EADGBE 9y ago
  I'm sure it's just more hours to them; on something they're trying to get out the door yesterday.
  - richmarr 9y ago
    I take your point that they're time constrained, but I dispute the implication that a differently proportioned team may make different decisions. That's an assumption that goes against the balance of evidence.
- mmierz 9y ago
  I can't comment on BBC, but I can't remember the last time I watched something on netflix or amazon that had missing subtitles.
  - bmsleight_ 9y ago
    BBC Live Subtitles are available on all channels apart from BBC Parliament, BBC Alba and S4C. https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/using_subtitles https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/using_subtitles Most of the programmes on BBC iPlayer now have the option to turn subtitles on. I think a very rare, old, program that does not have it. As the standards state MUST http://www.bbc.co.uk/accessibility/guides/subtitles/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/accessibility/guides/subtitles/ The standards are clear. 4.1. Full-length scheduled programmes and their associated broadcast subtitles MUST be made available online through iPlayer. http://www.bbc.co.uk/guidelines/futuremedia/accessibility/subtitling.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/guidelines/futuremedia/accessibility/su...
mynewtb 9y ago
How on earth can parents willingly expose their children to any kind of advertisement is beyond me. Adblocking is a must. Especially at such young age, you should know and control all manipulative media your kid consumes.
- fapjacks 9y ago
  RIGHT. People complaining about these bizarre violent videos but they'll sit their kids in front of mind control all day.
  - blattimwind 9y ago
    "I cannot be bothered to look after my offspring therefore I will downvote whomever doubts that education-by-internet for two year olds is appropiate"
    - ascorbic 9y ago
      I'll go out on a limb and guess you don't have kids, right?
      - deleted 9y ago
        [deleted]
    - ceejayoz 9y ago
      It's more "I haven't been able to do laundry/dishes in days and 30 minutes of Sesame Street videos won't hurt".
    - drdeca 9y ago
      I don't remember seeing "whomever" before, so I hope you don't mind me trying to understand where it is used. I see that it is used for the object of a verb, and whoever for the subject of a verb, but I am a bit confused here, because here it is the object of "downvote", but the subject of "doubts", so I am confused. In the sentence "I will look at whomever Bob greets.", I think I understand why it is "whomever", and in the sentence "Whoever enters the room next, they will encounter a surprise.", I think I understand why it is "whoever" and not "whomever", but in the case of your sentence, I don't know what the rule is. Could you (or anyone else) please explain it to me?
bencollier49 9y ago
Agree with this. It makes me very angry.
technofiend 9y ago
Google's adfilters are broken or can be gamed: I keep getting advertising for a subject I've explicitly banned.
- cisanti 9y ago
  I was searching for UV diodes another day and now I see on mobile ads (Google Adwords) for "Bank notes that pass UV pen tests", so either scam or they sell fake money. I have screenshotted it and I get these ads on reputable sites. I live in poorer country so I guess the bidding fe is not that expensive.
kalleboo 9y ago
Which seems really ironic with "adgate" going on where YouTube demonetizes videos with the message "not suitable for all advertisers". Seems like all advertisers aren't suitable for all videos...
bigbugbag 9y ago
Actually advertisements are not something kids should be exposed to at all. At least if you have the sake and health of the kid in minf. If what you have in mind is to target kids while they have not yet developed their mind to the point of dealing with advertising then this is something they should be exposed to. I tend to be of the first mindset.

What I find interesting is when you have parental controls on, and your playing a kids video, the advertisements are not something a kid should be shown.

by tmaly 9y ago

What I find interesting is when you have parental controls on, and your playing a kids video, the advertisements are not something a kid should be shown.

headmelted 9y ago

This. My kid was watching an official kids channel inside the YouTube Kids app (I honestly don't remember which, but it was affiliated with a local TV channel). I have the parental control settings configured - and I had to snatch it off him when I saw a red band title card come up in the ad break. Turned out it was for the IT remake. Couldn't believe it, but lesson learned. This needs serious work.

platetone 9y ago
My kids get to learn about living with HIV almost every time we watch Peppa Pig with a 3+ minute long commercial of monologues with people suffering from HIV. Also one time we got an American conservative extremist group video ad railing against transgender rights. And violent video game ads all the time. I signed up for YouTube Red for a free month of no commercials and it was great. I'm wondering if maybe YouTube is doing this to nudge parents into signing up for their premium service to avoids disturbing ads during kid viewing time. $10/month really isn't that bad and I'm considering just having it part my monthly digital fee schedule.
- Symbiote 9y ago
  Maybe get a VPN to a small country. As an English speaker in Denmark, half the adverts I see on YouTube are from the same company, offering English writing review. Others are either luxury cars or in Danish (broadband, holidays). I don't think it would be Denmark's style to have an HIV thing on YouTube.
  - wodenokoto 9y ago
    We can be pretty aggressive with that kind of thing too. Remember "ulandskalenderen" on TV? For those who don't know, it was a TV documentary series that would air everyday between the 1st and 24th of december, and would typically follow a child worker in the 3rd world. Boys working in mines. It was shown during the kids programming on national TV. I distinctly remember the story of a young girl who weaved carpets for a living and was about to loose her job because her boss thought her new born baby took too much of her time - a baby he was the father of!
- sundvor 9y ago
  I too feel like their violent ads (Australian WorkSafe ads are the stuff of nightmares for a child) are a way to force me to subscribe to Red. And that's even with YouTube for kids.

richmarr 9y ago

It reminds me of the surprisingly-high proportion of content available without subtitles/captions. It's 2017 and plenty of people are deaf, and yet the BBC, Netflix, Amazon, etc. regularly pretend this section of their audience doesn't exist. My guess is that is an instance of poor diversity within the team that set the early direction for YouTube. Maybe a team with a higher proportion of parents respresented might have made different decisions.

EADGBE 9y ago
I'm sure it's just more hours to them; on something they're trying to get out the door yesterday.
- richmarr 9y ago
  I take your point that they're time constrained, but I dispute the implication that a differently proportioned team may make different decisions. That's an assumption that goes against the balance of evidence.
mmierz 9y ago
I can't comment on BBC, but I can't remember the last time I watched something on netflix or amazon that had missing subtitles.
- bmsleight_ 9y ago
  BBC Live Subtitles are available on all channels apart from BBC Parliament, BBC Alba and S4C. https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/using_subtitles https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/using_subtitles Most of the programmes on BBC iPlayer now have the option to turn subtitles on. I think a very rare, old, program that does not have it. As the standards state MUST http://www.bbc.co.uk/accessibility/guides/subtitles/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/accessibility/guides/subtitles/ The standards are clear. 4.1. Full-length scheduled programmes and their associated broadcast subtitles MUST be made available online through iPlayer. http://www.bbc.co.uk/guidelines/futuremedia/accessibility/subtitling.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/guidelines/futuremedia/accessibility/su...

mynewtb 9y ago

How on earth can parents willingly expose their children to any kind of advertisement is beyond me. Adblocking is a must. Especially at such young age, you should know and control all manipulative media your kid consumes.

fapjacks 9y ago
RIGHT. People complaining about these bizarre violent videos but they'll sit their kids in front of mind control all day.
- blattimwind 9y ago
  "I cannot be bothered to look after my offspring therefore I will downvote whomever doubts that education-by-internet for two year olds is appropiate"
  - ascorbic 9y ago
    I'll go out on a limb and guess you don't have kids, right?
    - deleted 9y ago
      [deleted]
  - ceejayoz 9y ago
    It's more "I haven't been able to do laundry/dishes in days and 30 minutes of Sesame Street videos won't hurt".
  - drdeca 9y ago
    I don't remember seeing "whomever" before, so I hope you don't mind me trying to understand where it is used. I see that it is used for the object of a verb, and whoever for the subject of a verb, but I am a bit confused here, because here it is the object of "downvote", but the subject of "doubts", so I am confused. In the sentence "I will look at whomever Bob greets.", I think I understand why it is "whomever", and in the sentence "Whoever enters the room next, they will encounter a surprise.", I think I understand why it is "whoever" and not "whomever", but in the case of your sentence, I don't know what the rule is. Could you (or anyone else) please explain it to me?

bencollier49 9y ago

Agree with this. It makes me very angry.

technofiend 9y ago

Google's adfilters are broken or can be gamed: I keep getting advertising for a subject I've explicitly banned.

cisanti 9y ago
I was searching for UV diodes another day and now I see on mobile ads (Google Adwords) for "Bank notes that pass UV pen tests", so either scam or they sell fake money. I have screenshotted it and I get these ads on reputable sites. I live in poorer country so I guess the bidding fe is not that expensive.

kalleboo 9y ago

Which seems really ironic with "adgate" going on where YouTube demonetizes videos with the message "not suitable for all advertisers". Seems like all advertisers aren't suitable for all videos...

bigbugbag 9y ago

Actually advertisements are not something kids should be exposed to at all. At least if you have the sake and health of the kid in minf. If what you have in mind is to target kids while they have not yet developed their mind to the point of dealing with advertising then this is something they should be exposed to. I tend to be of the first mindset.