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I assume the game they were testing was "Overwatch". I recently saw some compilations posted by female streamers of the abuse they receive. It was pretty scary

I assume the game they were testing was "Overwatch". I recently saw some compilations posted by female streamers of the abuse they receive. It was pretty scary, and the community is uniquely aggressive for some reason. I am a particularly bad player myself. I actually quit playing with strangers because the abuse made the game not fun, and I am a male. In my experience low skill players receive an equal amount of harassment, but where I was being called The "N" Word, homosexual slurs, and just told to kill myself, women were given extremely detailed descriptions of how they would be raped, murdered and even cannibalized. The stuff children think it is acceptable to say to a women anonymously is INSANE. And we have no way of reporting someone for being the next Harvey Weinstien or even Ted Bundy and getting them reliably removed from the game.

hackerguy99 9y ago
>And we have no way of reporting someone for being the next Harvey Weinstien or even Ted Bundy Wait, are you equating name-calling with the crimes of Ted Bundy? There's a massive gap between saying you're going to rape someone (which is inappropriate, but no crime), and actually raping them.
mftf 9y ago
They are words. Not bullets, not fists, not gropes. And the fact that there is such a movement to sensationalize what should be harmless to any well adjusted person only encourages the trolls. This is fundamentally different from in person harassment or bullying. These things dont happen in every round, far from it, and there is nothing stopping people from muting microphones and/or leaving toxic games. There is no line to be drawn here. Offense is taken, not given. The first line of defense should be to teach people to ignore trolls, as this is the only realistic way to get rid of them. You can't go around arresting 10 year olds for whatever you happen to consider offensive. >next Harvey Weinstien or even Ted Bundy That is some extreme paranoia. People online say these things fundamentally because they know that others will find them unacceptable. By crying out over something so innocuous, you encourage the behavior. Edit: I'd also like to add, we are complaining about bad words in games that simulate killing, murder, and war. Is that consistent, or rational?
- rectang 9y ago
  > They are words. Not bullets, not fists, not gropes. The counter to that is, "The pen is mightier than the sword." We might treat them differently than physical violence, but words are not harmless.
- FiveDegrees 9y ago
  Sorry, what? Even the supreme court of the United States of 'but muh free speech' America has struck down the notion of threats of violence being a form of protected speech. Also, where in sweet jesus do you come from that threats of horrific violence--anything short of aggravated assault--is COMPLETELY above-board? If you use this language with your coworkers, you are liable to be fired. If you use this language with your subordinates, you are liable to be fired and charged with harassment. If you use this language to a server at a restaurant, you are liable to be expelled from the property. Notably, if you use this language on Hacker News, your account will get thrown directly into the Sun. This language is not tolerable, and it is absolutely not harmless (want citations?).
RightMillennial 9y ago
The game they played was Halo 3: > To explore social constructionist and evolutionary explanations for sexist behaviour, we examine how individual performance and social standing affect female-directed male behaviour using an online first-person shooter video game, Halo 3 (see methods for greater details regarding the game).

hackerguy99 9y ago

>And we have no way of reporting someone for being the next Harvey Weinstien or even Ted Bundy Wait, are you equating name-calling with the crimes of Ted Bundy? There's a massive gap between saying you're going to rape someone (which is inappropriate, but no crime), and actually raping them.

mftf 9y ago

They are words. Not bullets, not fists, not gropes. And the fact that there is such a movement to sensationalize what should be harmless to any well adjusted person only encourages the trolls. This is fundamentally different from in person harassment or bullying. These things dont happen in every round, far from it, and there is nothing stopping people from muting microphones and/or leaving toxic games. There is no line to be drawn here. Offense is taken, not given. The first line of defense should be to teach people to ignore trolls, as this is the only realistic way to get rid of them. You can't go around arresting 10 year olds for whatever you happen to consider offensive. >next Harvey Weinstien or even Ted Bundy That is some extreme paranoia. People online say these things fundamentally because they know that others will find them unacceptable. By crying out over something so innocuous, you encourage the behavior. Edit: I'd also like to add, we are complaining about bad words in games that simulate killing, murder, and war. Is that consistent, or rational?

rectang 9y ago
> They are words. Not bullets, not fists, not gropes. The counter to that is, "The pen is mightier than the sword." We might treat them differently than physical violence, but words are not harmless.
FiveDegrees 9y ago
Sorry, what? Even the supreme court of the United States of 'but muh free speech' America has struck down the notion of threats of violence being a form of protected speech. Also, where in sweet jesus do you come from that threats of horrific violence--anything short of aggravated assault--is COMPLETELY above-board? If you use this language with your coworkers, you are liable to be fired. If you use this language with your subordinates, you are liable to be fired and charged with harassment. If you use this language to a server at a restaurant, you are liable to be expelled from the property. Notably, if you use this language on Hacker News, your account will get thrown directly into the Sun. This language is not tolerable, and it is absolutely not harmless (want citations?).

RightMillennial 9y ago

The game they played was Halo 3: > To explore social constructionist and evolutionary explanations for sexist behaviour, we examine how individual performance and social standing affect female-directed male behaviour using an online first-person shooter video game, Halo 3 (see methods for greater details regarding the game).