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Cannabis works pretty well and has minimal side effects, at least compared to those you describe.

by testvox 9y ago

ams6110 9y ago
It's almost certainly not as well studied over long term large populations though.
- Jill_the_Pill 9y ago
  So many innovations in medicine, food, exercise, pesticides, whatever, only look better than the old stuff because they haven't been around long enough for all their flaws to be discovered.
darpa_escapee 9y ago
Perception changes with cannabis are a significant negative side-effect.
- blacksmith_tb 9y ago
  True for high-THC strains, but not high-CBD / low-THC ones. And of course opioids also famously affect perception: "do not operate heavy machinery" etc.
  - stefantheard 9y ago
    I have heard that CBD is extremely great as a natural anti inflammatory however the strains that get recommended are so absurdly expensive. On the order of 30ml for 150$ for charlottes web for example. Is it actually worth it? How long does that 30ml bottle last for 150$?
    - gebeeson 9y ago
      The bottle lasts approx 2 weeks with 'correct dosage'. And that price is the higher end product. I am familiar with the mid-range product which I used for 1.5 months (due to pain) and discontinued it because I honestly couldn't really tell the difference.
      - stefantheard 9y ago
        Yeah this is quite disheartening to hear. 300$ a month for something that some people can't even tell the difference with. I don't want to spend 150$ for 30ml of snake oil haha.
      - tasty_freeze 9y ago
        My wife has a number of health issues (chronic knee pain, low-level anxiety, CFS). She tried the same CBD oil for about a month and found it had no effect one way or the other.
    - gotrecruit 9y ago
      you're referring to the LP prices, i.e the "legal" stuff. you can buy far higher quality CBD strains at dispensaries, or even black market dealers, for cheaper.
chucky_z 9y ago
Cannabis has pretty awful side-effects for me. It gives me absolutely incredible nausea, to the point where I've tried it ~10 times in varying doses, thinking my dosage was an issue, and out of those I was violently ill 4 of the times. The other 6 times were simply unenjoyable. It doesn't just go away like alcohol either. If I drink too much and throw up, I feel better within a few minutes. For cannabis I remain high afterwards, so I've become pretty hesitant about it. That being said, it is very likely less addictive and has far fewer side-effects for those who it helps. For that reason I am extremely positive about legalizing it and studying it further. :)
- Retric 9y ago
  I am not sure you actually had just Cannabis if you had those symptoms. Was this at some legal location with a proven supply chain? PS: Not to defend Cannabis, it can trigger Heart Attacks and is associated with a host of Lung issues. I just never heard of those symptoms.
  - chucky_z 9y ago
    Yep! I tried edibles, joints, and vape pens from 3 different dispensaries in the bay area. The edibles and "free" joint I got from Airfield Supply Co. were the ones that effected me the least negatively.
    - Retric 9y ago
      Interesting, thanks for the heads up. Though, dosage may be the issue even being around smokers can be considered a low dose.
      - Schizotypy 9y ago
        This was my thought as well, dose is most likely the issue. A non tolerant patient will respond to under 10mg thc
        9y ago
vrtx0 9y ago
It may help to note that THC and CBD are two active components which can treat different symptoms. I find CBD extraordinarily effective at treating my essential tremor. CBD and THC combined provide mild help for my pain, but THC makes me anxious and spacey. The side effects don’t quite outweigh the benefits for me, personally. But I cannot recommend CBD enough, and agree both are worth trying.
latencyloser 9y ago
Anecdotal, but I can't imagine living a normal life while regularly using though--even if regular is just a couple days a week. It's legal where I live and the handful of times I have used during the week, I can't remember what I did the day before as well, or what my tasks for the day are. My performance at work noticeably degrades. I'm also more tired the day after, despite generally getting more sleep. It's great for the weekend when I can just sleep it off or my only tasks are to go for a hike and get groceries though. Better than alcohol at least.
- tasty_freeze 9y ago
  I'm curious what makes it great for the weekend for you. Not being able to remember what your goals for the day are or remember what you did the day before doesn't sound great, even if it is the weekend.
  - xbzbanna 9y ago
    I'm not the person you are responding to, but I limit my cannabis use during the workweek for similar reasons. Most often my goals for the weekend are to relax and enjoy myself. Of course I'm not going to get high if I'm about to fill out paperwork to refinance my mortgage.
  - latencyloser 9y ago
    I suppose I was thinking in terms of the alternative being alcohol. If I were going to choose between a night out drinking, or a night out having smoked a bit, I'd go for the latter. I'd rather feel a bit hazy the next day than be sick to my stomach or have a headache--which I get even just from ~3 beers over a few hours. I could of course opt for neither, but social norms being what they are.. there's some pressure there but that's a separate issue. That being said, I may have exaggerated the memory issues. It isn't like full blown amnesia. More so it just takes longer than usual to remember things. I'd compare it to a cache miss. Smoking clears my brain's cache the next day and I end up feeling like I am pulling short-term thoughts and memories from colder storage.
cmrdporcupine 9y ago
Cannabis makes my pain worse.

Cannabis works pretty well and has minimal side effects, at least compared to those you describe.

ams6110 9y ago

It's almost certainly not as well studied over long term large populations though.

Jill_the_Pill 9y ago
So many innovations in medicine, food, exercise, pesticides, whatever, only look better than the old stuff because they haven't been around long enough for all their flaws to be discovered.

darpa_escapee 9y ago

Perception changes with cannabis are a significant negative side-effect.

blacksmith_tb 9y ago
True for high-THC strains, but not high-CBD / low-THC ones. And of course opioids also famously affect perception: "do not operate heavy machinery" etc.
- stefantheard 9y ago
  I have heard that CBD is extremely great as a natural anti inflammatory however the strains that get recommended are so absurdly expensive. On the order of 30ml for 150$ for charlottes web for example. Is it actually worth it? How long does that 30ml bottle last for 150$?
  - gebeeson 9y ago
    The bottle lasts approx 2 weeks with 'correct dosage'. And that price is the higher end product. I am familiar with the mid-range product which I used for 1.5 months (due to pain) and discontinued it because I honestly couldn't really tell the difference.
    - stefantheard 9y ago
      Yeah this is quite disheartening to hear. 300$ a month for something that some people can't even tell the difference with. I don't want to spend 150$ for 30ml of snake oil haha.
    - tasty_freeze 9y ago
      My wife has a number of health issues (chronic knee pain, low-level anxiety, CFS). She tried the same CBD oil for about a month and found it had no effect one way or the other.
  - gotrecruit 9y ago
    you're referring to the LP prices, i.e the "legal" stuff. you can buy far higher quality CBD strains at dispensaries, or even black market dealers, for cheaper.

chucky_z 9y ago

Cannabis has pretty awful side-effects for me. It gives me absolutely incredible nausea, to the point where I've tried it ~10 times in varying doses, thinking my dosage was an issue, and out of those I was violently ill 4 of the times. The other 6 times were simply unenjoyable. It doesn't just go away like alcohol either. If I drink too much and throw up, I feel better within a few minutes. For cannabis I remain high afterwards, so I've become pretty hesitant about it. That being said, it is very likely less addictive and has far fewer side-effects for those who it helps. For that reason I am extremely positive about legalizing it and studying it further. :)

Retric 9y ago
I am not sure you actually had just Cannabis if you had those symptoms. Was this at some legal location with a proven supply chain? PS: Not to defend Cannabis, it can trigger Heart Attacks and is associated with a host of Lung issues. I just never heard of those symptoms.
- chucky_z 9y ago
  Yep! I tried edibles, joints, and vape pens from 3 different dispensaries in the bay area. The edibles and "free" joint I got from Airfield Supply Co. were the ones that effected me the least negatively.
  - Retric 9y ago
    Interesting, thanks for the heads up. Though, dosage may be the issue even being around smokers can be considered a low dose.
    - Schizotypy 9y ago
      This was my thought as well, dose is most likely the issue. A non tolerant patient will respond to under 10mg thc
      - 9y ago

vrtx0 9y ago

It may help to note that THC and CBD are two active components which can treat different symptoms. I find CBD extraordinarily effective at treating my essential tremor. CBD and THC combined provide mild help for my pain, but THC makes me anxious and spacey. The side effects don’t quite outweigh the benefits for me, personally. But I cannot recommend CBD enough, and agree both are worth trying.

latencyloser 9y ago

Anecdotal, but I can't imagine living a normal life while regularly using though--even if regular is just a couple days a week. It's legal where I live and the handful of times I have used during the week, I can't remember what I did the day before as well, or what my tasks for the day are. My performance at work noticeably degrades. I'm also more tired the day after, despite generally getting more sleep. It's great for the weekend when I can just sleep it off or my only tasks are to go for a hike and get groceries though. Better than alcohol at least.

tasty_freeze 9y ago
I'm curious what makes it great for the weekend for you. Not being able to remember what your goals for the day are or remember what you did the day before doesn't sound great, even if it is the weekend.
- xbzbanna 9y ago
  I'm not the person you are responding to, but I limit my cannabis use during the workweek for similar reasons. Most often my goals for the weekend are to relax and enjoy myself. Of course I'm not going to get high if I'm about to fill out paperwork to refinance my mortgage.
- latencyloser 9y ago
  I suppose I was thinking in terms of the alternative being alcohol. If I were going to choose between a night out drinking, or a night out having smoked a bit, I'd go for the latter. I'd rather feel a bit hazy the next day than be sick to my stomach or have a headache--which I get even just from ~3 beers over a few hours. I could of course opt for neither, but social norms being what they are.. there's some pressure there but that's a separate issue. That being said, I may have exaggerated the memory issues. It isn't like full blown amnesia. More so it just takes longer than usual to remember things. I'd compare it to a cache miss. Smoking clears my brain's cache the next day and I end up feeling like I am pulling short-term thoughts and memories from colder storage.

cmrdporcupine 9y ago

Cannabis makes my pain worse.