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Nobody understands how 11.0 made it into release

fourstar 9y ago
11 is so trash. Slowed me down immediately. Typing in iMessage is awful and lags like none other. I started to uninstall apps to see what I thought was an increase in speed, but I don't actually believe it. It's the very definition of planned obsolescence.
- kentf 9y ago
  Not ideal, but after listening to an episode of Back to Work, I tried the Reset All Settings trick and for the past 4 days since it's been wonderful. Fast with good battery life and minimal things to re-install / setup. Mainly just TouchID, Wifi networks, and Apple Pay.
  - kamilszybalski 9y ago
    Let's not even start talking about the calculator animation UI that makes adding impossible...
    - saagarjha 9y ago
      This has been fixed in iOS 11.2 beta.
      - vxNsr 9y ago
        This isn't Windows Phone that regular users are okay with being abused and know how to install the beta[0]. It's also kinda ridiculous that anyone is suggesting running something that Apple clearly doesn't think is ready for prime time to fix bugs. [0] Believe me I wish it was. everyday.
        saagarjha 9y ago
        I'm not suggesting that you install the beta. I'm just letting you know that this has been fixed by Apple and will be pushed out sometime in the near future.
- hedora 9y ago
  I thought that too at first, but slowness isn’t even half the problem: 1+2+3=24 if typed quickly into the calculator, even on the fastest hardware They got rid of autoplay next episodes in podcasts, and make it take three taps to play next episode. That moron swerving during your commute Monday? That’d be one of millions of people trying to advance to the next episode. They also eliminated “mark as [un]played” in podcasts. Alerts show on the lock screen, but are missing from the alert list. The keyboard in messaging is completely different than the keyboard in third party apps (and it doesn’t have feature parity with itself across third party apps either. If I enable speech in maps, using my car bluetooth, it pauses audio and plays silence during the voice prompts. After bluetooth drops when I leave the car, it happily speaks directions into my pocket instead of realizing I arrived. The battery meter and lifetime were FUBARed for a week after I upgraded. Calendars randomly opens to a useless year overview screen, even though I only ever use the “today” screen. (and so on...) All of these issues are regressions introduced between 10 and 11, and I’m sure I’ll notice more issues over time. (Also, performance is terrible on my old phone. Web pages and apps swap out constantly, which I never noticed before. It takes Siri so long to turn on the microphone that it’s better to open the app I want, and type the query. Maps take 15 seconds to open. Time to first picture is unacceptable, and I swear the quality of the pictures is lower too).
  - mynameisvlad 9y ago
    The calculator bug is fixed in 11.2 beta. It's one of the only things in the release notes.
  - Karupan 9y ago
    Also, the weather widget does not update when location service is disabled.
    - saagarjha 9y ago
      Well, how would it? You'd need to know where you are to get the weather.
      - 9y ago
PhasmaFelis 9y ago
I use an Android phone and a MacBook. I assumed it was just OS X that they were fucking up, to concentrate on iOS. Interesting to know it's across the board.
- Reason077 9y ago
  My experience with High Sierra has been great so far, with pretty much zero issues. It's one of the 'tock' releases where they focus on under-the-hood improvements rather than messing with the UI. Those are the good ones!
  - PhasmaFelis 9y ago
    Maybe so, I haven't tried that one yet. My problem is that the UI has gotten increasingly fucked up with each of the previous "tick" releases while adding absolutely nothing I'm interested in. Snow Leopard was a superior OS in every way, from my perspective. The only reason I upgraded was the increasing number of apps that required newer versions for no good reason.
stevefeinstein 9y ago
Nobody? Hyperbolic much?
sneak 9y ago
The new phone (8) is built/developed on ios11. For the 8 to ship on time, ios11 has to come out. Same with 11.1 and the 10.
- CameronBanga 9y ago
  The iPhone X shipped with 11.0.1, as an FYI.
  - sneak 9y ago
    Oh, good to know - I guess these were mostly developed in parallel then. The 11.1 release notes specifically mentioned the 10 so I assume they were paired like each previous year’s hw+sw release.
kps 9y ago
It was released when the schedule said it was to be released, rather than when it was ready to be released, and things got crammed in half-baked to make the deadline. (Android has the same problem.)

11 is so trash. Slowed me down immediately. Typing in iMessage is awful and lags like none other. I started to uninstall apps to see what I thought was an increase in speed, but I don't actually believe it. It's the very definition of planned obsolescence.

kentf 9y ago
Not ideal, but after listening to an episode of Back to Work, I tried the Reset All Settings trick and for the past 4 days since it's been wonderful. Fast with good battery life and minimal things to re-install / setup. Mainly just TouchID, Wifi networks, and Apple Pay.
- kamilszybalski 9y ago
  Let's not even start talking about the calculator animation UI that makes adding impossible...
  - saagarjha 9y ago
    This has been fixed in iOS 11.2 beta.
    - vxNsr 9y ago
      This isn't Windows Phone that regular users are okay with being abused and know how to install the beta[0]. It's also kinda ridiculous that anyone is suggesting running something that Apple clearly doesn't think is ready for prime time to fix bugs. [0] Believe me I wish it was. everyday.
      - saagarjha 9y ago
        I'm not suggesting that you install the beta. I'm just letting you know that this has been fixed by Apple and will be pushed out sometime in the near future.
hedora 9y ago
I thought that too at first, but slowness isn’t even half the problem: 1+2+3=24 if typed quickly into the calculator, even on the fastest hardware They got rid of autoplay next episodes in podcasts, and make it take three taps to play next episode. That moron swerving during your commute Monday? That’d be one of millions of people trying to advance to the next episode. They also eliminated “mark as [un]played” in podcasts. Alerts show on the lock screen, but are missing from the alert list. The keyboard in messaging is completely different than the keyboard in third party apps (and it doesn’t have feature parity with itself across third party apps either. If I enable speech in maps, using my car bluetooth, it pauses audio and plays silence during the voice prompts. After bluetooth drops when I leave the car, it happily speaks directions into my pocket instead of realizing I arrived. The battery meter and lifetime were FUBARed for a week after I upgraded. Calendars randomly opens to a useless year overview screen, even though I only ever use the “today” screen. (and so on...) All of these issues are regressions introduced between 10 and 11, and I’m sure I’ll notice more issues over time. (Also, performance is terrible on my old phone. Web pages and apps swap out constantly, which I never noticed before. It takes Siri so long to turn on the microphone that it’s better to open the app I want, and type the query. Maps take 15 seconds to open. Time to first picture is unacceptable, and I swear the quality of the pictures is lower too).
- mynameisvlad 9y ago
  The calculator bug is fixed in 11.2 beta. It's one of the only things in the release notes.
- Karupan 9y ago
  Also, the weather widget does not update when location service is disabled.
  - saagarjha 9y ago
    Well, how would it? You'd need to know where you are to get the weather.
    - 9y ago

PhasmaFelis 9y ago

I use an Android phone and a MacBook. I assumed it was just OS X that they were fucking up, to concentrate on iOS. Interesting to know it's across the board.

Reason077 9y ago
My experience with High Sierra has been great so far, with pretty much zero issues. It's one of the 'tock' releases where they focus on under-the-hood improvements rather than messing with the UI. Those are the good ones!
- PhasmaFelis 9y ago
  Maybe so, I haven't tried that one yet. My problem is that the UI has gotten increasingly fucked up with each of the previous "tick" releases while adding absolutely nothing I'm interested in. Snow Leopard was a superior OS in every way, from my perspective. The only reason I upgraded was the increasing number of apps that required newer versions for no good reason.

stevefeinstein 9y ago

Nobody? Hyperbolic much?

sneak 9y ago

The new phone (8) is built/developed on ios11. For the 8 to ship on time, ios11 has to come out. Same with 11.1 and the 10.

CameronBanga 9y ago
The iPhone X shipped with 11.0.1, as an FYI.
- sneak 9y ago
  Oh, good to know - I guess these were mostly developed in parallel then. The 11.1 release notes specifically mentioned the 10 so I assume they were paired like each previous year’s hw+sw release.

kps 9y ago

It was released when the schedule said it was to be released, rather than when it was ready to be released, and things got crammed in half-baked to make the deadline. (Android has the same problem.)