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GCP arrives in India with launch of Mumbai region
- amitutk 9y agoThe biggest tech hub in India is in Bangalore, but both AWS and GCP chose Mumbai. Because of proximity to international data cables?
- tantalor 9y agoYes: 12 cables land here SEACOM SEA-ME-WE-4 SEA-ME-WE 3 EIG I-ME-WE FLAG Europe Asia (FEA) FLAG Alcatel-Lucent Optical Network (FALCON) Gulf Bridge International BBG (Bay of Bengal Gateway) SEA-ME-WE-5 MENA AAE-1 (Asia Africa Europe) https://www.cablemap.info/ https://www.cablemap.info/
- AndrewMock 9y agoDatacenter staffing in the cloud is fairly easy; only about 6 or so are needed on-prem for HVAC and hands-on. The rest are remote. Many cloud datacenters are able to be located in extremely obscure locations because of this.
- augustz 9y agoGCP and AWS do not use 6 people per region. With AWS a region has more than one availability zone. aws ec2 describe-availability-zones --region ap-south-1 for example shows two datacenters in mumbai. Across physical site security, to power to network to just hard drive and system decommissioning, more than 6 staff. I wonder if this is partly why AWS has done so well. I've used colo and hosted providers who do seem to have basically no one actually on site.
- matt_wulfeck 9y agoMaybe double that number, or triple it. The point stands that you don’t need a large pool of local talent to operate a data center.
- ptman 9y agoThe Google data center in Hamina, Finland, statedly employs about 300. It's a mix of technical, security, catering and cleaning/facilities. Source (in Finnish): http://www.tivi.fi/Kaikki_uutiset/google-ei-aio-laajentaa-datakeskustaan-haminassa-kl-hyoty-430-miljoonan-investoinnista-meni-ulkomaille-6643373 http://www.tivi.fi/Kaikki_uutiset/google-ei-aio-laajentaa-da...
- rb808 9y agoThe datacenters should be where the users are, not where the developers are.
- nimchimpsky 9y agoNo not really.
- dgemm 9y agoBy locating them at major internet exchange points they are doing exactly that, being closer to more users.
- sudhirj 9y agoThe users are in every building all over the country and the world - which makes the datacenters best positioned at the junctions and interchanges of global wiring.
- Abishek_Muthian 9y agoAlso power, yes Tamilnadu does lead the country with power generation but Maharashtra comes close second with better power distribution backed by top private sectors in the industry.
- JumpCrisscross 9y agoSource?
- lmnop7 9y agoEnron -- Dabhol Power Company
- JumpCrisscross 9y ago>> Tamilnadu does lead the country with power generation but Maharashtra comes close second with better power distribution As of November 2015, Maharashtra had 38 Gigawatts of generation to Tamil Nadu's 23 [1]. Maharashtra and Gujarat jointly produce a quarter of India's 100 GW; Tamil Nadu 8%. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_India_by_installed_power_capacity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_India_by_installed_p...
- sudhirj 9y agoMumbai and Chennai are coastal cities with cable landings, but Mumbai is the finance and media capital - it has the stock exchange and Bollywood, both of whom I imagine will be big customers. And a bigger population as well.
- blocked_again 9y agoWho exactly are big customers from Bollywood?
- signal11 9y agoNot exactly Bollywood, but VFX outsourcing is big in India. From low-cost animation (think animation for kids' TV) to top TV drama like Game of Thrones to Hollywood blockbusters like Interstellar and Doctor Strange -- they all use outsourcing and most of these companies are in Bombay.
- olliej 9y agoI read the title as GOP and was incredibly confused :D That said, I'm curious about why they choose Mumbai (similar to @amiturk) - is it cable access, politics, land cost, ...?
- selanki 9y agoGoogle is following AWS ,. Microsoft is also following AWS . Which is not necessarily bad but doesn’t speak much of their innovation . The only play they have against AWS is fear mongering about vendor lock-in which is highly debatable anyways .
- dheera 9y agoVendor lock-in? That's a problem with Google much more so than Amazon.
- tyingq 9y agoDepends on what specific services you use. If you have a notable amount of data, they all have pretty hard lock in.
- sudhirj 9y agoFor any multi instance or multi datacenter managed distributed service, lock in is to be expected - the companies build and provide the service tightly coupled with their infrastructure and tech, so the effectively the companies are the service. The lock in follows from there. See DynamoDB, Bigtable, Spanner, SQS, S3 etc.
- skj 9y agoWith s3, at least, Google Cloud Storage can be used as a drop in replacement in most scenarios. The object model is the same, and it even supports the same API.
- skj 9y agoGoogle is quickly moving to containerized solutions for almost everything you might want to deploy. Avoiding lock-in, where reasonable (you're never going to be able to carry out something like big query as far as I can tell, and I don't work on those products or have special knowledge there) is something close to our hearts and is an important topic during design discussions of new products. (I work for Google, on cloud, on the containerized developer workflow)
- farhanhubble 9y agoNo GPU Instances sadly. I use AWS P2 from US west region and sometimes the transfer speed to and fro my system is really low.
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- anubhavmishra 9y agoThis is amazing! I am really excited to see this happen from the big three. Amazon, Google and Azure.
- vivekf 9y agoI wish they did billing from an Indian entity with GST as well instead of hitting us with massive exchange rate issues
- SoulMan 9y agogcping.com still shows less latency to Singapore than Mumbai - From Hyderabad, India.
- nodesocket 9y ago$GOOG employees: any eta on the California region?
- alpb 9y agoWhy do you need a California region? There’s already a west coast datacenter in Oregon. I’m guessing the latency differences would be likely negligible. That said there's plans for a Los Angeles region here: https://cloud.google.com/about/locations/ https://cloud.google.com/about/locations/ (Disclaimer: I am a Google employee, but totally not working on datacenter stuff.)
- CydeWeys 9y agoThe Pacific northwest has all of that delicious, cheap, reliable, non-polluting hydroelectric power. It's really a logical location for regional data centers, and Google is far from the only company making that same decision. I agree with you, I'm not seeing the big draw of California, especially given the much more expensive electricity plus greater earthquake risk.
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- kyrra 9y agoLA is on it's way. https://cloud.google.com/about/locations/ https://cloud.google.com/about/locations/
- pyvpx 9y agohaving spent considerable time in the Los Angeles datacenter market I am insanely curious where they're putting these 3 zones. I am guessing El Segundo/Hawthorne area, Wilshire Annex in downtown LA, and something in the Orange County area.
- shubhamjain 9y ago> With the opening of this Mumbai region, Indian customers are now able to buy these services directly in Indian rupees. Somewhat related: I was forced to switch to GCP for hosting my static website because of lack of payment options. AWS doesn't allow you to prepay. The only way to settle your dues is using a credit card. My international debit card usually works everywhere but it didn't in case of AWS. I never felt the need to get a credit card. I had to waste many hours in moving to GCP because there wasn't a way I could use to pay. It's funny how I have failed often to buy something online because payment options are not international friendly. Latest in this case was New Yorker subscription. Every address combination I tried said the same thing: "Address is invalid", even though I had ticked the option for International subscription. Support was hopeless and in the end, I had to go without it. It's like I am saying, "Shut up and take my money" and people at the other end are tone-deaf to it.
- lovelearning 9y ago"I never felt the need to get a credit card" IMO, credit cards are less damaging to you in case of misuse. If your debit card is stolen or its details are stolen from websites, you are at risk of losing your money directly from your bank account and recovering it may not be easy. You're at the mercy of the bank to compensate you, and most banks insist on formalities such as filing a police complaint. Good luck with that if the misuse happens from some other country. If the same happens with a credit card, you can dispute it without actually losing any money.
- oblio 9y agoYou just tie the debit card to an account where you limit the money available. Even if they steal it, they can only use N currency.
- Symbiote 9y agoA blanket statement like that isn't very useful without giving the country. Protection for the customer varies widely around the world; I trust that the Danish system would work out fine for me. (Additionaly, if my debit card is stolen it's of limited use without my PIN.)
- darklrd 9y agoThis is awesome! Are there any plans to launch in Delhi region as well?
- nik736 9y agoIs there any way to see which facilities Google Cloud is using?
- susankim 9y agoI am really excited to see this happen from the big three. Amazon, Google and Azure.
- vipkhan 9y agoGoogle is quickly moving to containerized solutions for almost everything you might want to deploy.