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Show HN: Yopp – A very quick way to transfer a file from phone to computer
- spking 9y agoAlso https://sendcatch.com https://sendcatch.com
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- josephernest 9y agoHere is how it looks like: https://i.imgur.com/KqcRwXY.gif https://i.imgur.com/KqcRwXY.gif i.e. "upload with phone, get the file on computer"
- wozniacki 9y agoI don't know if this is a known thing but my problem is in the reverse - getting things from my computer to the phone. Things like screenshots, gifs, webms etc from my computer to any phone anywhere, without first uploading to imgur or Google Drive / Dropbox / some other Live File-sharing service. Know of a simple tool that does that?
- King-Aaron 9y agoIt looks as if this tool can do just that...
- anschwa 9y agoThis would take care of that use case as well. It's a webapp that saves only a single file that can only be downloaded once. The idea is that the URL is only known to you. Pretty neat idea for personal file sharing.
- amigoingtodie 9y agoIt would be cool to have the computer show a series of QR codes with the encoded data, and an app on the phone that decodes them from the video. Also, there was a 'modem' implementation in a browser posted a few days ago, that could be used to share URLs from phone to PC (if the PC has a mic). Exfiltrating data can be non-nefarious.
- gjjrfcbugxbhf 9y ago1. Run an ssh server on the phone (may not seem simple to you depending on factors) 2. Bluetooth
- kalleboo 9y agoSFTP server on your home computer port-forwarded to the net, and an SFTP client on your phone?
- dTal 9y agoI wrote a little tool to do this. It fires up Python's SimpleHTTPServer and presents the URL to the file with a QR code. Works great as long as the phone and laptop are on the same network. For the other way I use the open source Android app "Share via HTTP" - it does the same thing. Here's the shitty bash script (I stole the urlencode part from Stackexchange): http://termbin.com/3b04 http://termbin.com/3b04
- josephernest 9y ago> my problem is in the reverse - getting things from my computer to the phone. It also works in this direction with Yopp.
- mekkkkkk 9y agoI use the File Commander Android app. It has a great feature where it starts up a web server hosting a file explorer like interface of your phone, where you can download, upload, delete, move and such. Works surprisingly well.
- dplgk 9y agoI have a mac and an Android phone. I use Pushbullet to send links, paste screenshots and it appears you can send files back and forth, too (I've never done it).
- tym0 9y agoIf you don't mind using an external service Pushbullet works quite well.
- freedomben 9y agoVery nice idea. Since I'm a newb at PHP, I would prefer it to be in a language I can hack in, but this is a clever way to solve one of the most annoying problems in the world :-) (I totally do the Google Drive thing right now)
- josephernest 9y agoIf you're a newbie at PHP, it could be fun to read the code: there's < 50 lines of PHP code, and that's it :)
- gmemstr 9y agoLooks like a neat little project. Quick question; why not split the PHP file into index.html and upload.php (or whatever)? I get that simplicity is key ("This one file does everything!"), but you could use that to build a couple more features (maybe some sort of PIN protection). Just throwing some ideas out there, cool utility nonetheless. Edit: And by splitting the file you could allow other people to build little frontends like native apps or browser extensions.
- blkhp19 9y agoAirDrop works pretty flawlessly if you're using an iPhone and Mac, which is fortunately + by choice my only setup / workflow.
- bschwindHN 9y agoAirDrop is fantastic, I wish every platform had it.
- derefr 9y agoAnnoyingly, AirDrop works directly over wifi, meaning that you can't use it to transfer files between an iPhone (connected to router Foo via wifi) and a Mac that's 1. Ethernet-wired to the same router Foo, and 2. has no wifi support. I'm not sure if (Intel-era) Macs without wireless cards/chipsets exist outside of Hackintoshes, but they're pretty common as Hackintoshes.
- jitl 9y agoWell you’re using a product built with specific hardware in mind with totally different, unsupported hardware. Apple doesn’t sell any devices without WiFi.
- DavideNL 9y agohttp://lmgtfy.com/?q=osx+airdrop+over+ethernet http://lmgtfy.com/?q=osx+airdrop+over+ethernet ;-)
- kalleboo 9y agoAirDrop also uses Bluetooth to detect nearby devices so you need that as well
- DavideNL 9y agohttp://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/12/05/how-to-enable-airdrop-file-transfers-between-unsupported-macs-and-over-ethernet/ http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/12/05/how-to-enable-airdro...
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- mirimir 9y agoThis is very cool! But you need to have a device with a reachable public IP address. For those that don't, Micah Lee's https://onionshare.org/ https://onionshare.org/ is a decent option. But routinely, I just GnuPG encrypt stuff, and use https://file.io/ https://file.io/.
- wozniacki 9y agoIs there a solution that doesn't require you to type out the tedious URL http://asxmi4q6i7pajg2b.onion/egg-cain http://asxmi4q6i7pajg2b.onion/egg-cain [1] for example, on your computer or your phone (when doing the reverse -- computer to phone) ? Sometimes its not even a file but a block of text that you want quickly transferred from your computer to your phone or vice-versa that shouldnt require the use of a third party service. I'm stunned to learn that there's really no such tool that lets you push URLs / Links / Text / GIFs / Screenshots between devices that you own & have on you. There's QPush which has a Chrome extension and an app but really nothing else close to what I describe. [2] [1] Onionshare - How to Use https://github.com/micahflee/onionshare/wiki https://github.com/micahflee/onionshare/wiki [2] QPush http://qpush.me/en/ http://qpush.me/en/
- stefanpie 9y agoWhat about Pushbullet. I've been using it for a while it seems to have meet a "good enough" requirement for me.
- mirimir 9y agoWell, if you have reachable public IPs, you can just SCP. Without reachable public IPs, you can setup Tor onions and OnionCat on both devices, and then SCP via OnionCat. Once you put the OnionCat /48 IPv6 in your hosts files, you just use hostnames.
- yorwba 9y agoFor block-of-text transfer between computer and phone I use qrencode [1] to encode text on my computer as a QR code, Barcode Scanner [2] on my Android phone to read the text or generate a QR code from text on the phone, and QtQR [3] to scan a code on the phone screen using my laptop webcam. The QR code detection in QtQR is a bit uncomfortable (you need to press a key to confirm, while holding the phone into the camera) and requires me to set my phone screen to maximum brightness, but otherwise it works quite well. It doesn't really solve the problem for large files like images, but I have successfully used it with long HN comments I started on my phone but wanted to finish on my laptop. [1] https://fukuchi.org/works/qrencode/ https://fukuchi.org/works/qrencode/ There's a Debian package you can just apt-get install [2] https://f-droid.org/packages/com.google.zxing.client.android/ https://f-droid.org/packages/com.google.zxing.client.android... [3] https://launchpad.net/qr-tools https://launchpad.net/qr-tools
- hungryfoolish 9y agosharedrop.io works great for devices on the same wifi network. There is also pushbullet - I generally take screenshots and like to transfer to desktop. I can 'share' a screenshot I took using pushbullet and it will appear in a new browser tab in my desktop, and then I can save it.
- mkj 9y agoIs there a way a web app can add itself to the Android ACTION_SEND intent list? That would make it simpler.
- josephernest 9y agoPlease ping me if you find a solution for this (please post on https://github.com/josephernest/Yopp/issues https://github.com/josephernest/Yopp/issues), I'm highly interested!
- stewbrew 9y ago"Have you ever spent more than 1 second wondering" They should add: - Run a static file server but huh, I don't have a full blown web server and/or php installed on my work station. Seriously, I think syncthing provides a rather good solution for this problem. You have to install it on every machine though.
- WaxProlix 9y agoTheir premise is x <-> y. Saying "I can run `python -m SimpleHTTPServer`" doesn't help- it's not the problem they seem to be solving. Or am I wrong?
- stewbrew 9y agoFrom what I gather, it's a php page. You upload 1??? file or download that file - for that you have to know the URL. So it's rather x<->anyone who knows the URL.
- josephernest 9y ago> They should add: > - Run a static file server but ... Not really. To do a fair comparison, the three examples that I've listed are things you have to do each time (finding USB cable, or logging in the webmail, or opening Dropbox, etc.) Here installing the PHP on a server is something you do only once for all.
- pjtr 9y agoAlternatively: https://send.firefox.com/ https://send.firefox.com/
- josephernest 9y agoYes but not really. Imagine it is uploaded on phone. The URL is https://send.firefox.com/share/bec9e0497c https://send.firefox.com/share/bec9e0497c. Will you spend 30 seconds writing this URL in the URL bar of your computer browser? (oh no, I made a typo in the URL, let's start again...). Once again, the idea with Yopp is 7 atomic actions and no more: https://github.com/josephernest/Yopp#minimalist-ux https://github.com/josephernest/Yopp#minimalist-ux
- ac29 9y ago>Will you spend 30 seconds writing this URL in the URL bar of your computer browser? (oh no, I made a typo in the URL, let's start again...) Firefox lets you send a tab/link to another device (if you use Firefox sync). No typing necessary. >Yopp is 7 atomic actions and no more I like the UX well enough, but calling it just 7 actions completely ignores that you need to have an internet facing webserver with PHP, configured. Many of us here could arrange that pretty easily, but it greatly adds to complexity versus using an existing web-service.
- josephernest 9y agoOh that's interesting, I didn't know that about Firefox sync. How does it work? You connect, once for all (with a login/pwd?) 2 browsers (e.g. phone Firefox and computer Firefox)? Then you go to send.firefox.com, on phone, and you upload a file. And then how do I get the tab with the right URL on the PC? I guess I open Firefox, and then how can I see "tabs opened on my phone"? (Would you have a screenshot?)
- 1wd 9y agoYes, you set up Sync once on each device, with a password. You can configure what you want to sync (bookmarks, tabs, preferences, ...). I only sync bookmarks, those just appear automatically. I never tried syncing tabs. I see now there is a "Sync now" command in the old Alt-menu, and a "Synced Tabs" window in the new hamburger-menu, but I never used those. Screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/QkhNQ https://imgur.com/a/QkhNQ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/features/sync/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/features/sync/
- jdc 9y agoAlso Dukto: http://www.msec.it/blog/?page_id=11 http://www.msec.it/blog/?page_id=11
- andreyazimov 9y agoAirDrop not work on my side. I have iOS 10 and OSX El Capitan. Maybe this is a reason but I do not want really to update it. Instead of Airdrop I'm using Telegram messager and share files to myself. It's quick and I'm always have access to them in the cloud.
- gnicholas 9y agoYou're not alone. I have High Sierra and iOS 11 and still find it to be finicky. Of course, it was worse with prior OSes, but even now I find it takes a long time for devices to "find" each other when transferring from iOS to MacOS, or vice-versa. I seriously end up using Dropbox sometimes because Airdrop won't work.
- d--b 9y agoI may be not using the latest and greatest, but email works pretty well for me... if I need more than 10mb, I use wetransfer. Sure it goes through the internet, but yes I don't want to think more than 1second about how to do this.
- josephernest 9y agoYes but then, you have to think about deleting it once it's downloaded (or you'll have a growing email box), or ask WeTransfer to delete the files... See https://github.com/josephernest/Yopp/blob/master/README.md#minimalist-ux https://github.com/josephernest/Yopp/blob/master/README.md#m...
- ehllo 9y agoWetransfer delete the file after 7 Days for a free account and after 4 weeks with a pro account. https://wetransfer.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202603916-How-long-are-uploads-available-to-download- https://wetransfer.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202603916-H...
- josephernest 9y agoWith Yopp, we use 7 atomic actions to perform the task (see https://github.com/josephernest/Yopp/blob/master/README.md#minimalist-ux https://github.com/josephernest/Yopp/blob/master/README.md#m...). I tried with WeTransfer and we have 10 taps/clicks + 16 alphanumeric characters to type on keyboard: Open browser on phone [1 tap], Open wetransfer page [1 tap if in bookmarks], "Take me to free" [1 tap], "I agree" [1 tap], "Add your files" [1 tap], Choose the file [1 action], "..." round icon [1 tap], "Send as link" [1 tap], "Transfer" [1 tap]. Open browser on computer [1 double click], write URL [at least 16 alphanumeric keystrokes], e.g. we.tl/aqNXmKTjFO
- yoodenvranx 9y agoFor the Linux users: Try KDE Connect, it is amazing! You can easily share files in both directions and you have a shared clipboard which makes exchanging short texts and urls very simple.
- rainingmonkey 9y agoKDE connect really is a "killer app"; there's nothing like it on Windows or Gnome. Someone's texted me a URL and I don't want to open it on the tiny phone screen - just long press the url, tap copy and hit ctrl-v in kde. Every time I do this I feel a little tingle of joy, probably to balance all the frustration I've felt trying to move things between devices in the past. Want to move pictures off the phone? Just Share -> Share with KDE connect -> accept transfer request on PC and it's done. It also controls media players nice and smoothly. My single gripe is the lack of a dark color scheme in the app.
- meekins 9y ago+ Phone notifications on your desktop! A really awesome piece of software that doesn't seem to get the attention it deserves.
- mwj 9y agoUmmm Google Drive?
- tonylemesmer 9y agoAirdroid
- josephernest 9y agoIf you count everything (opening Airdroid app on phone, choosing the file, opening airdroid on PC, etc.), how many actions (including every click / tap) does it require? See https://github.com/josephernest/Yopp#minimalist-ux https://github.com/josephernest/Yopp#minimalist-ux.
- tonylemesmer 9y agoYou're not wrong but I don't have to run a server to use Airdroid.
- msravi 9y agotermux + woof woof -i <ip_address> -p <port> <filename> termux: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux&hl=en https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux&hl=... woof: http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/woof.html http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/woof.html Edit: 1. Allows directory upload/download (tar/gzip/bzip2 compressed) 2. Local file server (doesn't go over the internet) 3. Allows upload form (-U option) 4. Allows file to be served <count> number of times (-c option)
- dingaling 9y agoNice solution Termux is also on F-droid, thankfully for those without Google Services: https://f-droid.org/packages/com.termux/ https://f-droid.org/packages/com.termux/
- josephernest 9y agoThe key thing with Yopp is that it only requires 7 actions: https://github.com/josephernest/Yopp#minimalist-ux https://github.com/josephernest/Yopp#minimalist-ux.
- keypress 9y agoShame the server needs to be there. Would be good if you could do some auto negotiation between two browsers. Partner 'still' has failed to liberate photos from smartphone.
- josephernest 9y agoThe real key idea of this tool is to require 7 actions only: https://github.com/josephernest/Yopp#minimalist-ux https://github.com/josephernest/Yopp#minimalist-ux.
- ashnehete 9y agoThe beauty of this lies in how simple it is. I love it!
- egfx 9y agoYou can do something similar with https://www.qkast.com https://www.qkast.com and web content.
- mustak_im 9y agoI recently wrote https://justa.ml https://justa.ml Was looking for something ready-to-use and simple (without login or giving too much details) for the situations when AirDrop or PushBullet <3 is not an option. Hastily written code code is available at https://github.com/mustakimali/JustA.ML https://github.com/mustakimali/JustA.ML Learned a thing or two about end-to-end encryption while working on that.
- panda88888 9y agoThis is cool. put on old man’s hat I remember in the good old days of flip phones, I just use Bluetooth OBEX to locally transfer the file(s) to another Bluetooth enabled device. It’s a bit slow but otherwise works fine. It was simple too—just select the picture, hit send via Bluetooth, select the receiving Bluetooth device, and hit Send. All these file transfer over the cloud using google/Dropbox/amazon/etc for local devices feel like Rube Goldberg to me... done ranting
- jpl56 9y agoHow do you transfer a bunch on pictures rather than just one ? I just go in the gallery, select the pictures and share them with Box. Would be the same with Dropbox, can't you keep the connection active on both sides? (no need to type the password)