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Is Apple the only company that can reliably build quality electronics?

chk_ur_autism 9y ago
I don't know why you're being downvoted, as it seems to largely be the case.
satysin 9y ago
Apple have stuck to LCD for all their iPhone's. The iPhone X will be the first with an OLED panel so it will be interesting to see if after a few months it also suffers from burn in.
- MBCook 9y ago
  Apple tends to be willing to pay more for the parts and they have very high quality standards. That said they’re not immune. There have been a number of displays Apple used in the last few years with retention issues (I think the original rMBP has issues) so it’s perfectly possible. If they made the gamble they must think it’s ok but as someone who plans to buy an X I can say it does worry me a bit. Edit: another comment points out their keyboards. That obviously hasn’t been going well either.
- bllguo 9y ago
  The problem with the Pixel 2 XL screens seems to be attributable to LG. LG's own V30 phone has similar screen issues. Meanwhile Samsung's OLED panels are doing great so far - and Apple is sourcing from Samsung.
- thinkythought 9y ago
  I've never seen a 1st gen apple watch with burn in, even. Mine is a bit over two years old. Apple seems to buy the absolute best quality displays, and have good control logic/orbiting/etc to prevent it. I use mine heavily, although i guess not as much as a phone. I've never heard of one getting burn in/retention though.
jdavis703 9y ago
Let's wait and see if Apple has similar issues when the iPhone X comes out. We already know they're facing supply chain issues, perhaps the bottleneck is due to low yield on the OLED component. Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2017-10-23/apple-losing-its-supply-chain-mojo-is-a-major-threat https://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2017-10-23/apple-l...
- MBCook 9y ago
  That’s one possibility. The other rumored issue is getting enough FaceID modules.
- kartD 9y ago
  Not really, Apple is sourcing exclusively from Samsung based on rumors. It's the FaceID module production that's causing supply constraints.
  - JustSomeNobody 9y ago
    One of their antenna vendors was/is having issues also.
- Steko 9y ago
  The supply issues Apple has with the X are due to the scale of their global sales machine. If they were dealing with a few million of phones like Google is with the Pixel, instead of tens of millions of phones like they are with the X, there wouldn't be any supply chain issues.
izacus 9y ago
The issues we've had with 2016 MacBook Pros kinda claim that not even Apple can do reliable electronics these days :(
- nmstoker 9y ago
  Better to say suggest or imply rather than claim
- JustSomeNobody 9y ago
  As complex as the iPhone X is, I'm thinking that this iteration of it will be a buggy mess (and I'm not just talking iOS). Hope not, but I'm taking a wait and see posture.
Numberwang 9y ago
I have an iPhone7 from work and it is abysmally bad. It keeps stalling when I browse internet and file management is not an option. I miss my old motorola android that just worked every day.
- elsewhen 9y ago
  File management became available in a recent iOS update.
  - JustSomeNobody 9y ago
    Sort of. It's not anything like Android. But, as an iOS user, I'll continue to hold out hope.
    - danso 9y ago
      To be honest, it's substantially more than I expected as an iOS user. I've barely begun to deliberately use it, but find it nice that my drawing apps can import from the Files folder as well as directly from each other.
- markdog12 9y ago
  Just got a Moto G4 last month and I really like it. Everything just works and loads quick. No complaints.
  - butterfi 9y ago
    The Moto g5 plus seems very nice, esp. for $220
- acdha 9y ago
  If you’re having network hangs, does your IT department install a proxy or VPN? That doesn’t happen on normal devices but when enterprise IT is involved it’s common.
  - 9y ago
legohead 9y ago
Like the iPhone 6 which would permanently bend?

I don't know why you're being downvoted, as it seems to largely be the case.

Apple have stuck to LCD for all their iPhone's. The iPhone X will be the first with an OLED panel so it will be interesting to see if after a few months it also suffers from burn in.

MBCook 9y ago
Apple tends to be willing to pay more for the parts and they have very high quality standards. That said they’re not immune. There have been a number of displays Apple used in the last few years with retention issues (I think the original rMBP has issues) so it’s perfectly possible. If they made the gamble they must think it’s ok but as someone who plans to buy an X I can say it does worry me a bit. Edit: another comment points out their keyboards. That obviously hasn’t been going well either.
bllguo 9y ago
The problem with the Pixel 2 XL screens seems to be attributable to LG. LG's own V30 phone has similar screen issues. Meanwhile Samsung's OLED panels are doing great so far - and Apple is sourcing from Samsung.
thinkythought 9y ago
I've never seen a 1st gen apple watch with burn in, even. Mine is a bit over two years old. Apple seems to buy the absolute best quality displays, and have good control logic/orbiting/etc to prevent it. I use mine heavily, although i guess not as much as a phone. I've never heard of one getting burn in/retention though.

jdavis703 9y ago

Let's wait and see if Apple has similar issues when the iPhone X comes out. We already know they're facing supply chain issues, perhaps the bottleneck is due to low yield on the OLED component. Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2017-10-23/apple-losing-its-supply-chain-mojo-is-a-major-threat https://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2017-10-23/apple-l...

MBCook 9y ago
That’s one possibility. The other rumored issue is getting enough FaceID modules.
kartD 9y ago
Not really, Apple is sourcing exclusively from Samsung based on rumors. It's the FaceID module production that's causing supply constraints.
- JustSomeNobody 9y ago
  One of their antenna vendors was/is having issues also.
Steko 9y ago
The supply issues Apple has with the X are due to the scale of their global sales machine. If they were dealing with a few million of phones like Google is with the Pixel, instead of tens of millions of phones like they are with the X, there wouldn't be any supply chain issues.

izacus 9y ago

The issues we've had with 2016 MacBook Pros kinda claim that not even Apple can do reliable electronics these days :(

nmstoker 9y ago
Better to say suggest or imply rather than claim
JustSomeNobody 9y ago
As complex as the iPhone X is, I'm thinking that this iteration of it will be a buggy mess (and I'm not just talking iOS). Hope not, but I'm taking a wait and see posture.

Numberwang 9y ago

I have an iPhone7 from work and it is abysmally bad. It keeps stalling when I browse internet and file management is not an option. I miss my old motorola android that just worked every day.

elsewhen 9y ago
File management became available in a recent iOS update.
- JustSomeNobody 9y ago
  Sort of. It's not anything like Android. But, as an iOS user, I'll continue to hold out hope.
  - danso 9y ago
    To be honest, it's substantially more than I expected as an iOS user. I've barely begun to deliberately use it, but find it nice that my drawing apps can import from the Files folder as well as directly from each other.
markdog12 9y ago
Just got a Moto G4 last month and I really like it. Everything just works and loads quick. No complaints.
- butterfi 9y ago
  The Moto g5 plus seems very nice, esp. for $220
acdha 9y ago
If you’re having network hangs, does your IT department install a proxy or VPN? That doesn’t happen on normal devices but when enterprise IT is involved it’s common.
- 9y ago

legohead 9y ago

Like the iPhone 6 which would permanently bend?