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This is actually hopeful since there are so many secondary and tertiary tech cities. This means: we should all buy houses in the secondary tech hubs that are s

This is actually hopeful since there are so many secondary and tertiary tech cities. This means: we should all buy houses in the secondary tech hubs that are still affordable so our kids can afford to have families at tech firms when housing becomes unaffordable.

pc86 9y ago
Or perhaps actually trying to fix the root issue rather than scrambling for the "F you, I got mine" route and buying property you don't need now on the speculation that its value will increase over the next decades. Companies should be incentivized (by us, software developers) to hire remote workers for jobs that don't need to be physically in an office.
- projectramo 9y ago
  Please lay out your plan in more detail. I just want to see the logic of this. You think I can put downward pressure on property prices by insisting on a remote job? I don't think hiring companies take joy in making your life difficult. They would hire more remote workers if they felt it could work. I prefer working remotely but find it much harder to manage.
  - eip 9y ago
    It's super easy. You just tell them my rate to work remote is X. My rate to work on site is 1.75X. Been remote for 10+ years. Make bay area salary and live in a huge house on the beach.
- gowld 9y ago
  How did you fix the root issue?
WalterSear 9y ago
Self-driving cars are going to be rewriting the commute paradigm. It's important to factor that in.
- projectramo 9y ago
  This is a good point. Note only will that time become productive time, but it might reduce traffic on the roads and reduce congestion.
  - WalterSear 9y ago
    The real estate to purchase right now is vacation homes 8 hours drive from the metropolitan areas.
- tezzer 9y ago
  So I still won't be able to see my kids awake because of a 1.5 hour commute each way, but I'll be able to read the newspaper on the way to work? No thanks.
  - WalterSear 9y ago
    You do what you like. I'll arrive at work at 11 for my first meeting, having gotten a solid 1.5 hours of uninterrupted work done already, and be wrapping up any collaboration in order to return to my mobile cubicle by 4. Of course, I'll still be available via skype. The morning stand up may happen while everyone is leaving their driveway. Soon enough this new daily routine is going to be about as disruptive to productivity in the office as taking lunch, since almost everyone with a car will taking advantage of it. The start and ends of business days are going to become 'private', with people keeping their heads down, and interacting via video and chat/mail as the norm, with face-to-face work performed during the middle of the day. We may even have to do away with lunchtimes as we know them, since they take away from prime face-to-face work time. Or perhaps, with all the other communication going on, daily team-bonding time over food might be one of few on going reasons for direct interactions. And vehicles are going to start being designed to be really comfortable to work/play in. Every mid-morning, people are going to have to choose between getting up from the work they are stuck into and moving to the desk in their office, or staying focused on the task at hand. Eventually, people are going to start choosing the privacy and comfort of their car over the relative space of a cubicle, and more and more people are going to start working from the parking lot. Companies may even start expecting a portion of their workforce to bring their own vehicles, in the manner of 'bring your own device' and alter/reduce their use of offices. Of course, things could go the other way: in the city, you'll want to the car to go pick up the groceries and do errands, and then find a in a nice empty shaded spot out of town for the day, and to find a new spot if anyone sketchy shows up. This is just one tiny, tiny change as we move from a civilizations of vehicles to a civilization of intelligent transport. Cars and buses are about to be replaced by the equivalent of very small mobile homes/buildings.
refurb 9y ago
Trust me, it's not different this time. The crazy hot housing markets will eventually falter and go down in price. It always happens and as interest rates start to rise it's going to happen in the not too distant future.
- x2f10 9y ago
  I can't wait. I'm in the NW and housing is to the point that a 'starter family' is incapable of living in a 'starter home'. Studio apartments $1,200+.
primeblue 9y ago
Don't ruin your child's life with a short career in technology

pc86 9y ago

Or perhaps actually trying to fix the root issue rather than scrambling for the "F you, I got mine" route and buying property you don't need now on the speculation that its value will increase over the next decades. Companies should be incentivized (by us, software developers) to hire remote workers for jobs that don't need to be physically in an office.

projectramo 9y ago
Please lay out your plan in more detail. I just want to see the logic of this. You think I can put downward pressure on property prices by insisting on a remote job? I don't think hiring companies take joy in making your life difficult. They would hire more remote workers if they felt it could work. I prefer working remotely but find it much harder to manage.
- eip 9y ago
  It's super easy. You just tell them my rate to work remote is X. My rate to work on site is 1.75X. Been remote for 10+ years. Make bay area salary and live in a huge house on the beach.
gowld 9y ago
How did you fix the root issue?

WalterSear 9y ago

Self-driving cars are going to be rewriting the commute paradigm. It's important to factor that in.

projectramo 9y ago
This is a good point. Note only will that time become productive time, but it might reduce traffic on the roads and reduce congestion.
- WalterSear 9y ago
  The real estate to purchase right now is vacation homes 8 hours drive from the metropolitan areas.
tezzer 9y ago
So I still won't be able to see my kids awake because of a 1.5 hour commute each way, but I'll be able to read the newspaper on the way to work? No thanks.
- WalterSear 9y ago
  You do what you like. I'll arrive at work at 11 for my first meeting, having gotten a solid 1.5 hours of uninterrupted work done already, and be wrapping up any collaboration in order to return to my mobile cubicle by 4. Of course, I'll still be available via skype. The morning stand up may happen while everyone is leaving their driveway. Soon enough this new daily routine is going to be about as disruptive to productivity in the office as taking lunch, since almost everyone with a car will taking advantage of it. The start and ends of business days are going to become 'private', with people keeping their heads down, and interacting via video and chat/mail as the norm, with face-to-face work performed during the middle of the day. We may even have to do away with lunchtimes as we know them, since they take away from prime face-to-face work time. Or perhaps, with all the other communication going on, daily team-bonding time over food might be one of few on going reasons for direct interactions. And vehicles are going to start being designed to be really comfortable to work/play in. Every mid-morning, people are going to have to choose between getting up from the work they are stuck into and moving to the desk in their office, or staying focused on the task at hand. Eventually, people are going to start choosing the privacy and comfort of their car over the relative space of a cubicle, and more and more people are going to start working from the parking lot. Companies may even start expecting a portion of their workforce to bring their own vehicles, in the manner of 'bring your own device' and alter/reduce their use of offices. Of course, things could go the other way: in the city, you'll want to the car to go pick up the groceries and do errands, and then find a in a nice empty shaded spot out of town for the day, and to find a new spot if anyone sketchy shows up. This is just one tiny, tiny change as we move from a civilizations of vehicles to a civilization of intelligent transport. Cars and buses are about to be replaced by the equivalent of very small mobile homes/buildings.

refurb 9y ago

Trust me, it's not different this time. The crazy hot housing markets will eventually falter and go down in price. It always happens and as interest rates start to rise it's going to happen in the not too distant future.

x2f10 9y ago
I can't wait. I'm in the NW and housing is to the point that a 'starter family' is incapable of living in a 'starter home'. Studio apartments $1,200+.

primeblue 9y ago

Don't ruin your child's life with a short career in technology