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I thought Tesla (unlike SpaceX, due to ITAR/etc.) was pretty open with their technology. I assume Elon would be happy if all of the non-EVs in China copied Tesl

by rdl 9y ago

I thought Tesla (unlike SpaceX, due to ITAR/etc.) was pretty open with their technology. I assume Elon would be happy if all of the non-EVs in China copied Tesla. OTOH, I think the Chinese market actually already has better EVs for 90% of the Chinese market, and the market for Tesla is the high-end prestige market which wouldn't be so affected by copying (they don't copy BMWs today) https://www.tesla.com/blog/all-our-patent-are-belong-you https://www.tesla.com/blog/all-our-patent-are-belong-you

rasz 9y ago
Cheaper for sure, but there is always a price (burning alive in case of BYD e6 ).
- icebraining 9y ago
  Sounds like FUD. Is there anything more than the single case reported on Wikipedia?
miketery 9y ago
I believe this only applies to charging tech so that the whole industry is standardized for charging stations. I don't think Tesla shares any of their chemistry, power management, and other high value IP.
- KGIII 9y ago
  As far as I know, it is all patents. Here is another source, as linked in my above post: https://www.wired.com/2014/06/tesla-just-gave-all-its-patents-away-to-competitors/ https://www.wired.com/2014/06/tesla-just-gave-all-its-patent...
  - thisisit 9y ago
    From the article: > Tesla CEO Elon Musk announced today that his company will not "initiate patent lawsuits against anyone who, in good faith, wants to use our technology." The question really is - what defines "good faith" for Musk and Tesla. Additionally, I am no patent expert but it will be interesting to see licensing terms, if any. Specially after what happened with React and Facebook.
    - KGIII 9y ago
      The link in another response to me has a link to a clarification video from Musk. I didn't watch it, as the text was adequate. It looks like no licensing is required and that they've been legally dumped into the public domain in a binding fashion - maybe. That's not actually ever been ruled on in a court, from what I can find via Google. That post suggests no company legal team would allow it. The article thinks Apple might use it, as an example of a user. I am no expert, so I'll defer to others.
SimbaOnSteroids 9y ago
I would like to take a moment to recognize that Tesla is apparently run by 90's meme lords. Check the url on that link. all-our-patent-are-belong-to-you. This pleases me greatly.
Bobbleoxs 9y ago
I just want to point out the grammatical error here in the title. I mean I get it - he's busy but this is a core concept and it's in the title.
- rdl 9y ago
  You are unfamiliar with the “All Your Base Are Belong To Us” meme which the title references.
  - HeyLaughingBoy 9y ago
    Someone must have set him up the bomb.

by rdl 9y ago

rasz 9y ago

Cheaper for sure, but there is always a price (burning alive in case of BYD e6 ).

icebraining 9y ago
Sounds like FUD. Is there anything more than the single case reported on Wikipedia?

miketery 9y ago

I believe this only applies to charging tech so that the whole industry is standardized for charging stations. I don't think Tesla shares any of their chemistry, power management, and other high value IP.

KGIII 9y ago
As far as I know, it is all patents. Here is another source, as linked in my above post: https://www.wired.com/2014/06/tesla-just-gave-all-its-patents-away-to-competitors/ https://www.wired.com/2014/06/tesla-just-gave-all-its-patent...
- thisisit 9y ago
  From the article: > Tesla CEO Elon Musk announced today that his company will not "initiate patent lawsuits against anyone who, in good faith, wants to use our technology." The question really is - what defines "good faith" for Musk and Tesla. Additionally, I am no patent expert but it will be interesting to see licensing terms, if any. Specially after what happened with React and Facebook.
  - KGIII 9y ago
    The link in another response to me has a link to a clarification video from Musk. I didn't watch it, as the text was adequate. It looks like no licensing is required and that they've been legally dumped into the public domain in a binding fashion - maybe. That's not actually ever been ruled on in a court, from what I can find via Google. That post suggests no company legal team would allow it. The article thinks Apple might use it, as an example of a user. I am no expert, so I'll defer to others.

SimbaOnSteroids 9y ago

I would like to take a moment to recognize that Tesla is apparently run by 90's meme lords. Check the url on that link. all-our-patent-are-belong-to-you. This pleases me greatly.

Bobbleoxs 9y ago

I just want to point out the grammatical error here in the title. I mean I get it - he's busy but this is a core concept and it's in the title.

rdl 9y ago
You are unfamiliar with the “All Your Base Are Belong To Us” meme which the title references.
- HeyLaughingBoy 9y ago
  Someone must have set him up the bomb.