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Micron now has a 11TB SSD
- cbg0 9y ago3.35 GB/sec sequential reads and 2.4 GB/sec writes. You can see their product brief for the 9200 NVMe series here: https://enterprisestorage.micron.com/~/media/documents/products/product-flyer/9200_ssd_product_brief.pdf https://enterprisestorage.micron.com/~/media/documents/produ... This 11TB one is actually aimed for read-intensive workloads, might want to look at the 9200 MAX series for something with more endurance, ideal I guess for a caching solution that's quite cheap compared to RAM, and which won't require an expensive server for such a high capacity.
- peterburkimsher 9y agoAny word on the cost? I can't see the price obviously on the specs page.
- discordance 9y agoAbout 8k USD
- tyingq 9y agoIf you follow the DigiKey link in this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15527213 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15527213 $7700/unit if you buy 4.
- ksec 9y agoAnd WD Gold 12TB goes for about $520 / unit. It used to be about 10X difference between HDD and SSD per TB pricing. Now the gap has widen quite a bit with NAND price going up.
- jotm 9y agoOnly if you buy the top of the line (by density) stuff. Go a bit lower and the pricing between HDD/SSD is closer than ever, though there's still a noticeable gap.
- loeg 9y agoIs the brand new 11 TB offering really representative of SSD $/GB? As of a year and a half ago you could buy the Samsung PM1633a 15TB for $10k[0], or about 67¢/GB (slightly cheaper than the Micron unit linked, 70¢/GB). It's still available around the same price[1]. So I guess you're right. The price I see advertised for the WD Gold 12TB is a bit higher[2], or about 5¢/GB. Still, more than 10x better value in terms of raw storage. [0]: https://www.anandtech.com/show/10533/samsung-expands-its-pm1633a-lineup-as-1536-tb-ssd-hits-retail-for-10k https://www.anandtech.com/show/10533/samsung-expands-its-pm1... [1]: https://www.cdw.com/shop/products/Samsung-PM1633a-MZILS15THMLS-solid-state-drive-15.36-TB-SAS-12Gb-s/4586754.aspx https://www.cdw.com/shop/products/Samsung-PM1633a-MZILS15THM... [2]: https://www.cdw.com/shop/products/WD-Gold-Enterprise-Class-Hard-Drive-WD121KRYZ-hard-drive-12-TB-SATA-6/4797281.aspx?enkwrd=wd%20gold%20%2212%20tb%22&pfm=srh https://www.cdw.com/shop/products/WD-Gold-Enterprise-Class-H...
- peterburkimsher 9y ago
- userbinator 9y ago...and if you actually want to buy one, https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/micron-technology-inc/MTFDHAL11TATCW-1AR1ZABYY/MTFDHAL11TATCW-1AR1ZABYY-ND/7598107 https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/micron-technology-... But it's TLC flash (more correctly known as 3-bit-per-cell), which has exponentially lower endurance and retention than 2-bit(MLC) or 1-bit(SLC) despite only multiplicatively higher capacity. This particular model has an endurance of <1500 cycles, and that's probably even after a considerable number of blocks have been remapped. The odd capacity of 11TB is another giveaway, since TLC NAND raw capacity is usually in multiples of 3. No mention of retention either in the datasheet, which is a bit worrying.
- delinka 9y agoTo short-circuit a click, that's $7,700.515 each if you're willing to go in with someone to buy four at once for $30,802.06
- spaceflunky 9y ago$0.70 a gig is really high. Even for cutting edge high density SSDs, I would expect to see around $0.50 a gig.
- wtallis 9y agoSamsung's consumer PCIe drives are $0.47 and $0.58 for TLC and MLC respectively. $0.70 for an enterprise SSD isn't as bad as you think; flash is more expensive now that what you might have expected.
- qaq 9y agoYou could write like 4TB per day for 10 years there are a lot of workloads that would be OK with this.
- dsr_ 9y agoThe lifetime of most hardware is under 10 years. I'd be pretty happy with an unconditional 5 year warranty. That said, in five years a 10TB SSD should be around the price of a 1TB SSD now.
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- ChuckMcM 9y agoLarge read only datasets. Map tiles, logs, security camera video etc. The retention question is unanswered.
- DonHopkins 9y agoWhen I was shopping for a fast SSD back in April 2016, I found the Samsung 950 PRO M.2 512GB was one of the fastest available (quite a lot faster than all the others, and not much more expensive), for 310 EUR. I've used them for desktops and laptops, and they work wonderfully. I'm thinking of getting another, but time has passed and I haven't kept up with the market. Which big M.2 SSDs are hitting the sweet spots of price and performance these days? Any suggestions or warnings, please?
- tgtweak 9y agoSamsung 960 Evo is great. If you can spring for the pro you will get better reliability, though both are quite reliable for non-enterprise use. I have a 512GB 950pro and it's a beast. You might be better getting a larger, less expensive ssd for "overflow" and keeping the 950pro for OS and applications - it's still a very good performing drive.
- jpalomaki 9y agoSamsung (currently 960 Pro) is still the king a believe. The only drawback I have found is that Samsung does not support the specifications required for Bitlocker to offload the encryption to the drive.
- mastax 9y ago> Samsung does not support the specifications required for Bitlocker to offload the encryption No, but you need to use Samsung Magician (or whatever they call it) to enable it.
- chrisper 9y agoIs this only for the pro version?
- jpalomaki 9y agoI wonder if this only applies to the NVMe models (like 950 and 960 Pro)? Edit: probably not. The 850 Evo spec specifically mentions support for IEEE1668 (Encrypted drive)[1] (probably a typo there, should be IEEE1667). 950 Pro specs say: "EncryptionTCG Opal Family Spec and eDrive(IEEE1667) to be supported by FW update" [2]. Not 100% sure, but I think this update never arrived for some reason. 960 Pro specs don't mention anything [3] [1] http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/product/consumer/850evo.html http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/product/co... [2] https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/ssd-950-pro-nvme-512gb-mz-v5p512bw/#specs https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/solid-st... [3] http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/product/consumer/960pro.html http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/product/co...
- matt2000 9y agoWill SSDs become cheaper per megabyte than magnetic platters at some point?
- Elessar 9y agoMagnetic platters keep advancing as well. I loved this article that Ars did covering WD's latest advancements in MAMR: https://www.anandtech.com/show/11925/western-digital-stuns-storage-industry-with-mamr-breakthrough-for-nextgen-hdds https://www.anandtech.com/show/11925/western-digital-stuns-s... That said, most of the projections there are from WD, so there's automatically a grain of salt needed. Still, they predict to keep the gap for cost per GB fairly large out to 2028 (!).
- edkennedy 9y agoIt doesn't help that the flash manufacturers seem to be colluding on price and want to keep the cost of SSDs artificially high. Gotta make those margins! See recent DDR4 pricing issues for an example.
- rhizome 9y agoI've been complaining that there's no such thing as a low-capacity (32-64GB SSD) for $40 (or whatever) for a couple of years now.
- eropple 9y agoSure there is. https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-Endurance-Free-download-SP060GBSS3S60S25AE/dp/B01M2UUACN https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-Endurance-Free-download... https://www.amazon.com/KingDian-Internal-Solid-Desktop-Laptop/dp/B018K3AV7A/ https://www.amazon.com/KingDian-Internal-Solid-Desktop-Lapto... And, if you spend a little more, SanDisk will sell you a 120GB for $64: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LY5ZZ4P/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LY5ZZ4P/
- BenjiWiebe 9y agoWatch Newegg deals. I'm pretty sure I've got some <$50 120GB SanDisk SSDs there.
- jgamman 9y agosomeone remind me how big the sci-hub archive is - when do i get _my_ copy of the literature? ;-)