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Great, while they are at it can Google please downgrade the extremely spammy w3schools or at least allow me to remove certain websites from my searches. There a

Great, while they are at it can Google please downgrade the extremely spammy w3schools or at least allow me to remove certain websites from my searches. There are so many better resources out there...

jrowley 9y ago
Some googlers made this w3fools, so employees certainly aren't fond of w3schools. http://www.w3fools.com/ http://www.w3fools.com/
the8472 9y ago
https://www.google.com/search?q=querySelectorAll+-site:w3schools.com https://www.google.com/search?q=querySelectorAll+-site:w3sch... this syntax has been supported for many years
- haberman 9y ago
  I also like the "Personal Blocklist" extension for Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/personal-blocklist-by-goo/nolijncfnkgaikbjbdaogikpmpbdcdef?hl=en https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/personal-blocklist...
- mrighele 9y ago
  I think the parent meant to exclude some domains from every search. I would love that too. If I have to add "-site:somedomain.com" (and maybe even many of them!) it takes less effort ignore them in the result
  - hollander 9y ago
    Bookmark that. I use the following: https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&newwindow=1&num=30 https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&newwindow=1&num=30 I remove the ei identifier from the bookmark. I guess this is a unique ID that makes it possible for google to keep following me if I happen to bookmark it. Eg: ei=Vo_n34buB9Cabdedfk6gO And I happen to like the W3school examples, especially CSS. They've helped me many times. I don't see the problem with them, but please ignore them if you don't like it.
madeofpalk 9y ago
I’ll never/rarely click a w3schools link, but I do find MDN to be quite difficult to read with it’s pages being quite technical and terse. W3schools is quite pragmatic with providing a reference for CSS properties. I hope these extra resources will let MDN improve on this.
- wil421 9y ago
  Agreed. Even simple concepts can have overly technical examples on MDN. Sometimes it causes me to overthink a simple script.
- booleandilemma 9y ago
  I agree. I feel like going to MDN to quickly look up syntax is like trying to kill a fly with a handgun.
  - megalodon 9y ago
    I’m quite the opposite, I feel like MDN is the only sane resource in an ocean of opinionated crap. Not saying it covers everything but for syntax it’s practically the only place I visit.
    - weberc2 9y ago
      Same here. For syntax and quick examples, I find w3schools much harder to parse than MDN. Maybe there's more noise in w3schools, or maybe the layout/design of MDN are better for these purposes.
  - llccbb 9y ago
    But going to w3schools is like trying to kill a fly with a flyswatter with a dashed red border of weight 2px. Their examples are so basic, pre-canned, and repetitious between pages that you rarely see useful options and intricacies that each tag/property may posses. For super quick syntax checks ("Is it fill-opacity or opacity?") MDN might be a little overboard, but as any sort of reference beyond 3 line snippets it is the link that I always look for. I usually append MDN to the end of my searches for HTML/SVG help.
vinhboy 9y ago
I've never understood the hate for w3schools. I've always found them to be extremely useful. I like that usage examples is the focus of their site. I find that more useful than wordy documentations that more advanced references provide.
- TAForObvReasons 9y ago
  http://www.w3fools.com/ http://www.w3fools.com/ top of the page summarizes the situation: > When W3Fools was launched in 2011, the state of documentation for developers was poor. This site documented many content errors and issues with the W3Schools website. The Mozilla Developer Network was around but it did not have much support at the time. > Today, W3Schools has largely resolved these issues and addressed the majority of the undersigned developers' concerns. For many beginners, W3Schools has structured tutorials and playgrounds that offer a decent learning experience. Do keep in mind: a more complete education will certainly include MDN and other reputable resources. MDN would greatly benefit from more soft documentation and a playground setup similar to W3Schools
  - 52-6F-62 9y ago
    I'm still waiting for the true spiritual revival of HTML Goodies https://web.archive.org/web/19980130110903/http://htmlgoodies.com:80/ https://web.archive.org/web/19980130110903/http://htmlgoodie... Or not. MDN usually suits me fine. Actually, I find TutorialsPoint https://www.tutorialspoint.com/ https://www.tutorialspoint.com/ generally pretty good, if not lacking in some depth. They give a decent soft intro, though.
  - eradicatethots 9y ago
    I think if you tried to add that to mdn you’d make it worse at what it’s good for
- brokentone 9y ago
  At this point (trying to be a good citizen, not using an ad blocker) the ads on the site lock up my computer, and a simple lookup turns into a substantial time investment. Vs MDN doesn't have this issue.
wnevets 9y ago
> or at least allow me to remove certain websites from my searches. Im currently using a chrome extension from google[0] to do exactly this. [0] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/personal-blocklist-by-goo/nolijncfnkgaikbjbdaogikpmpbdcdef?hl=en https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/personal-blocklist...
- amelius 9y ago
  Why is this supported through a Chrome extension? Google is tracking everything about me. So I expect that certainly they can track which sites I don't like, especially when I mark them as such.
  - wnevets 9y ago
    They use to for a short time, I don't recall if they ever said why they removed the feature from google search itself. This extension came after they removed it.
nachtigall 9y ago
I find duckduckgo much better for these kind of searches. It also shows a brief instant result which is usually an excerpt from MDN. Actually, I find duckduckgo better for all kinds of technical searches these days.
- badestrand 9y ago
  Their Stack Overflow integration is to me one of the best things that ever happened to search engines.
accountforty 9y ago
IMO W3schools has some of the best development tutorials for beginners

jrowley 9y ago

Some googlers made this w3fools, so employees certainly aren't fond of w3schools. http://www.w3fools.com/ http://www.w3fools.com/

the8472 9y ago

https://www.google.com/search?q=querySelectorAll+-site:w3schools.com https://www.google.com/search?q=querySelectorAll+-site:w3sch... this syntax has been supported for many years

haberman 9y ago
I also like the "Personal Blocklist" extension for Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/personal-blocklist-by-goo/nolijncfnkgaikbjbdaogikpmpbdcdef?hl=en https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/personal-blocklist...
mrighele 9y ago
I think the parent meant to exclude some domains from every search. I would love that too. If I have to add "-site:somedomain.com" (and maybe even many of them!) it takes less effort ignore them in the result
- hollander 9y ago
  Bookmark that. I use the following: https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&newwindow=1&num=30 https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&newwindow=1&num=30 I remove the ei identifier from the bookmark. I guess this is a unique ID that makes it possible for google to keep following me if I happen to bookmark it. Eg: ei=Vo_n34buB9Cabdedfk6gO And I happen to like the W3school examples, especially CSS. They've helped me many times. I don't see the problem with them, but please ignore them if you don't like it.

madeofpalk 9y ago

I’ll never/rarely click a w3schools link, but I do find MDN to be quite difficult to read with it’s pages being quite technical and terse. W3schools is quite pragmatic with providing a reference for CSS properties. I hope these extra resources will let MDN improve on this.

wil421 9y ago
Agreed. Even simple concepts can have overly technical examples on MDN. Sometimes it causes me to overthink a simple script.
booleandilemma 9y ago
I agree. I feel like going to MDN to quickly look up syntax is like trying to kill a fly with a handgun.
- megalodon 9y ago
  I’m quite the opposite, I feel like MDN is the only sane resource in an ocean of opinionated crap. Not saying it covers everything but for syntax it’s practically the only place I visit.
  - weberc2 9y ago
    Same here. For syntax and quick examples, I find w3schools much harder to parse than MDN. Maybe there's more noise in w3schools, or maybe the layout/design of MDN are better for these purposes.
- llccbb 9y ago
  But going to w3schools is like trying to kill a fly with a flyswatter with a dashed red border of weight 2px. Their examples are so basic, pre-canned, and repetitious between pages that you rarely see useful options and intricacies that each tag/property may posses. For super quick syntax checks ("Is it fill-opacity or opacity?") MDN might be a little overboard, but as any sort of reference beyond 3 line snippets it is the link that I always look for. I usually append MDN to the end of my searches for HTML/SVG help.

vinhboy 9y ago

I've never understood the hate for w3schools. I've always found them to be extremely useful. I like that usage examples is the focus of their site. I find that more useful than wordy documentations that more advanced references provide.

TAForObvReasons 9y ago
http://www.w3fools.com/ http://www.w3fools.com/ top of the page summarizes the situation: > When W3Fools was launched in 2011, the state of documentation for developers was poor. This site documented many content errors and issues with the W3Schools website. The Mozilla Developer Network was around but it did not have much support at the time. > Today, W3Schools has largely resolved these issues and addressed the majority of the undersigned developers' concerns. For many beginners, W3Schools has structured tutorials and playgrounds that offer a decent learning experience. Do keep in mind: a more complete education will certainly include MDN and other reputable resources. MDN would greatly benefit from more soft documentation and a playground setup similar to W3Schools
- 52-6F-62 9y ago
  I'm still waiting for the true spiritual revival of HTML Goodies https://web.archive.org/web/19980130110903/http://htmlgoodies.com:80/ https://web.archive.org/web/19980130110903/http://htmlgoodie... Or not. MDN usually suits me fine. Actually, I find TutorialsPoint https://www.tutorialspoint.com/ https://www.tutorialspoint.com/ generally pretty good, if not lacking in some depth. They give a decent soft intro, though.
- eradicatethots 9y ago
  I think if you tried to add that to mdn you’d make it worse at what it’s good for
brokentone 9y ago
At this point (trying to be a good citizen, not using an ad blocker) the ads on the site lock up my computer, and a simple lookup turns into a substantial time investment. Vs MDN doesn't have this issue.

wnevets 9y ago

> or at least allow me to remove certain websites from my searches. Im currently using a chrome extension from google[0] to do exactly this. [0] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/personal-blocklist-by-goo/nolijncfnkgaikbjbdaogikpmpbdcdef?hl=en https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/personal-blocklist...

amelius 9y ago
Why is this supported through a Chrome extension? Google is tracking everything about me. So I expect that certainly they can track which sites I don't like, especially when I mark them as such.
- wnevets 9y ago
  They use to for a short time, I don't recall if they ever said why they removed the feature from google search itself. This extension came after they removed it.

nachtigall 9y ago

I find duckduckgo much better for these kind of searches. It also shows a brief instant result which is usually an excerpt from MDN. Actually, I find duckduckgo better for all kinds of technical searches these days.

badestrand 9y ago
Their Stack Overflow integration is to me one of the best things that ever happened to search engines.

accountforty 9y ago

IMO W3schools has some of the best development tutorials for beginners