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I dont get why this gets so much attention. Of course there was a contact. Vikings conquered Sicily, south Italy and other meditarinian locations since 8th cen
by jankotek 9y ago
I dont get why this gets so much attention. Of course there was a contact.
Vikings conquered Sicily, south Italy and other meditarinian locations since 8th century. There was a slave trade. At some point Islam conquered 20% of Europe.
- watwut 9y agoI kinda wish people argued against instead of down-voting this one.
- eadmund 9y ago> At some point Islam conquered 20% of Europe. A lot of people don't realise that the high points of Islamic European expansion were Poitiers & Vienna — less than 800 miles apart.
- cyberattacknow 9y agoThe same is happening again, but this time due to mass immigration and high birth rate, rather than military invasion.
- JPKab 9y agoPeople projecting their own value of multi-culturalism onto historical artifacts and cultures. Multiculturalism and tolerance are valuable, wonderful additions to our world, but we shouldn't desperately try to find evidence of it where it isn't. It's desperate and embarrassing, and taints the institutions doing it as simply being publicity seekers first, and scientists second.
- watwut 9y agoMy country has quite a few castles which were destroyed by Turks. It is written on welcoming billboards along with other important dates. Some multiple times. Some castles were build specifically to defend against turks and families who ruled them became "famous Turk killers". So you know, Islam conquering parts of Europe happened. And Vikings did attacked north of Europe and I think they ruled Russia basically at one point. So I still don't know whether there are details that makes their meeting impossible or whether you just chalked away possibility of Turks and Islam attacking Europe in the past impossible without studying it.
- panzagl 9y agoNo one doubts contact occurred. But articles like the original are often interpreted to mean 'see a thousand years ago Islam was peaceful, everything was great then white people screwed it up.' Whether that interpretation is warranted is of course dependent on how you feel about where it was published- if the original article was just in some journal somewhere no one would care. But because it was turned into a story by the BBC, it is immediately cast in the light of current politics regarding Islam.
- watwut 9y agoThe parent says that there was contact and used the word "conquered" and "slave trade". Downvoting it for political reasons that have zero to do with history being discussed, because some unrelated discussions about tolerance something is textbook suppressing of historical truth for political reasons.