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Humans evolved from immaterial matter to conscious carriers of information. The real question isn't whether AGI is possible but whether humans are the fittest

Humans evolved from immaterial matter to conscious carriers of information. The real question isn't whether AGI is possible but whether humans are the fittest carrier of information for our DNA and that seems to be technology in some shape or form helped by things like deep learning. My bet is always on evolution. And now that technology can learn it's IMO only a matter of time before we will experience another Cambrian explosion if we aren't already.

hexadecimated 9y ago
> whether humans are the fittest carrier of information for our DNA We humans are defined by our DNA, so are we not by definition the fittest carrier for it?
- ThomPete 9y ago
  We are defined by DNA but DNA has evolved.
  - hexadecimated 9y ago
    Sorry but I don't quite understand your comment. What do the chemical underpinnings of evolution have to do with AGI?
    - ThomPete 9y ago
      What I was trying to say was that if someone questions AGI then you should first ask yourself if you have the right perspective on this or whether you are letting details get in the way. If humans can evolve from basic physical buildings blocks of the universe then why shouldn't AGI be possible especially when we now reach a point were computers can learn i.e. like we have become pattern recognizing feedback loops. Sure there is some way yet, but there is absolutely no evidence that it shouldn't be possible. To me technology is a natural continuum of evolution i.e. it's part of nature. The reason why I believe this is that information is what really matters here which is why we have evolved to become pattern recognizing feedback loops and why what seems to be the most powerful innovation besides fire and the wheel is the ability to simulate more or less anything around us manipulating and storing information. Our DNA is what made us possible. Other animals DNA weren't configured to turn them into self-aware entities. I believe that all biological life will be replaced by digital/silicon-based life because it's simply a better information carrier and that is what evolution will always be giving preference to better information carriers. "Technology" not humans will explore the universe and escape the next big life-destroying asteroid or whatever else endanger the survival of the DNA. And yes I am aware DNA is chemically based but technology will be able to simulate it. Whether there will be true transcendence between analog and digital is anyone's guess but I don't believe humans are the last step in evolution.
ythn 9y ago
You read a lot of Sci-Fi, don't you?
- sctb 9y ago
  Could you please stop posting unsubstantively like we've asked many times?
fourfaces 9y ago
>Humans evolved from immaterial matter to conscious carriers of information. You know this how? Where is the science behind it?
- ThomPete 9y ago
  What do you mean where is the science behind it? It's literally the science we know (physics, chemistry, biology evolution). From primordial soup to humans. Not sure what you are putting into question here?
  - fourfaces 9y ago
    This science of consciousness you speak of is nowhere to be found.

hexadecimated 9y ago

> whether humans are the fittest carrier of information for our DNA We humans are defined by our DNA, so are we not by definition the fittest carrier for it?

ThomPete 9y ago
We are defined by DNA but DNA has evolved.
- hexadecimated 9y ago
  Sorry but I don't quite understand your comment. What do the chemical underpinnings of evolution have to do with AGI?
  - ThomPete 9y ago
    What I was trying to say was that if someone questions AGI then you should first ask yourself if you have the right perspective on this or whether you are letting details get in the way. If humans can evolve from basic physical buildings blocks of the universe then why shouldn't AGI be possible especially when we now reach a point were computers can learn i.e. like we have become pattern recognizing feedback loops. Sure there is some way yet, but there is absolutely no evidence that it shouldn't be possible. To me technology is a natural continuum of evolution i.e. it's part of nature. The reason why I believe this is that information is what really matters here which is why we have evolved to become pattern recognizing feedback loops and why what seems to be the most powerful innovation besides fire and the wheel is the ability to simulate more or less anything around us manipulating and storing information. Our DNA is what made us possible. Other animals DNA weren't configured to turn them into self-aware entities. I believe that all biological life will be replaced by digital/silicon-based life because it's simply a better information carrier and that is what evolution will always be giving preference to better information carriers. "Technology" not humans will explore the universe and escape the next big life-destroying asteroid or whatever else endanger the survival of the DNA. And yes I am aware DNA is chemically based but technology will be able to simulate it. Whether there will be true transcendence between analog and digital is anyone's guess but I don't believe humans are the last step in evolution.

ythn 9y ago

You read a lot of Sci-Fi, don't you?

sctb 9y ago
Could you please stop posting unsubstantively like we've asked many times?

fourfaces 9y ago

>Humans evolved from immaterial matter to conscious carriers of information. You know this how? Where is the science behind it?

ThomPete 9y ago
What do you mean where is the science behind it? It's literally the science we know (physics, chemistry, biology evolution). From primordial soup to humans. Not sure what you are putting into question here?
- fourfaces 9y ago
  This science of consciousness you speak of is nowhere to be found.