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I'm one of those people who gladly use an iPhone with mostly Google apps (namely Chrome, Gmail and Maps). My little experience with Android has always been nega

I'm one of those people who gladly use an iPhone with mostly Google apps (namely Chrome, Gmail and Maps). My little experience with Android has always been negative. The only real annoyance with iOS is you can't set Chrome nor Maps as default applications.

AceJohnny2 9y ago
I'm in the same boat. My dream device would be iPhone HW with Android software. I like Android's flexibility, the replaceable home screen instead of the list of apps, the Intents system that lets you replace an app handler with another (Chrome & Maps for example), the much better notification system... I have an iPhone now (because work), and it took a few months to stop grumbling, but I definitely appreciated the overall better hardware compared to my friend's Android phones, most significantly the excellent (and immediately available!) camera.
- autotypo 9y ago
  On Android 6 at least, double tapping the home button brings up the camera immediately.
  - AceJohnny2 9y ago
    I'm thinking more of the hardware lag, especially the horror stories of the Nexus 6 and to a lesser extent Nexus 5X.
    - jaytaylor 9y ago
      Is this FUD? I have a Nexus and it's still working wonderfully.
- muninn_ 9y ago
  One of the issues is that running Android software on an iPhone inherently breaks a lot of the things that you love about iPhone. The reason is because of Apple’s verticals integration. Running Android would negate this and likely result in a not-so-great experience compared to native iOS.
- nvarsj 9y ago
  Samsung hardware has blown Apple out of the water for the last 3-4 years. I want Samsung screens and form factors with iOS. iOS is what makes iPhones great! Android is a giant tracking/ad/malware machine. It’s far too permissive to applications you install on it. My most recent negative experience were pop up ads that the Peel Remote started showing on my home screen. Peel remote is one of the force installed applications that Samsung’s touchwiz installs. It’s like Windows 95 with OEM bloatware, but worse.
  - giobox 9y ago
    > Samsung hardware has blown Apple out of the water for the last 3-4 years No one familiar with the impressive lead in mobile CPU design Apple has carved the past few years would ever make this claim. It's far more than just iOS making Apple's iOS devices great today. You're wish for a better display is definitely valid though, and arguably gets granted at the end of this month.
  - skinnymuch 9y ago
    Aren't the A chips Apple make really good? And are the cameras really inferior?
- bitmapbrother 9y ago
  >My dream device would be iPhone HW with Android software It's called the Pixel 2.
  - mehrdada 9y ago
    Nah, sorry to break it for you, but the Qualcomm chip is nowhere close to A11.
    - bitmapbrother 9y ago
      Yeah, sorry to break this to you, but that A11 isn't fairing too well against Android phones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kpD3XCp49o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kpD3XCp49o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G669OgskM0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G669OgskM0 Let's see how that A11 is on battery efficiency: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbSjUq_kvSM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbSjUq_kvSM
      - davemp 9y ago
        How does that battery life test show anything about the A11’s efficiency? - The displays will be drawing a huge majority of the power—diminishing the effect of the processors. - The batteries have massively different capacities.
        bitmapbrother 9y ago
        The A11 is on a smaller die size and yet the battery usage has actually regressed from that of an A10 [1]. Additionally, the displays do draw a lot of power, but so does video processing and games and the A11 doesn't seem to offer that much of an advantage, if any from a battery perspective, than the A10. [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-691mHL1to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-691mHL1to
        davemp 9y ago
        I'm not going to watch any more 10min hobbyist benchmark videos.
- wutbrodo 9y ago
  > compared to my friend's Android phones One universal fallacy I've noted since the beginning of Android and iOS is seeing people compare $30 Android phones with iPhones, which target only the premium part of the market. I've used primarily the Galaxy S line but my friends have had Nexuses etc, and the hardware quality (screen, camera, compute speed,build quality) has been about as good (with variance in both directions) as contemporary iPhones for many years now (helped along by the fact that the galaxy S6 aped iPhone's design pretty aggressively).
kevin_b_er 9y ago
Don't worry, your default browser is safari and will always be safari. The chrome browser isn't really chrome, just a reskinned safari. Apple doesn't permit any real browsers except safari.
fjksksvdjsjd 9y ago
Or inbox/gmail. All mailto links are hardwired to the shitty built-in imap client.
peteretep 9y ago
> The only real annoyance with > iOS is you can't set Chrome nor > Maps as default applications. Or indeed Gmail. Apple Fanboi that I am, I'd love to see them hit with an anti-competition suit in the UK that forced them to publish APIs to allow other apps to replace the core suite.

AceJohnny2 9y ago

I'm in the same boat. My dream device would be iPhone HW with Android software. I like Android's flexibility, the replaceable home screen instead of the list of apps, the Intents system that lets you replace an app handler with another (Chrome & Maps for example), the much better notification system... I have an iPhone now (because work), and it took a few months to stop grumbling, but I definitely appreciated the overall better hardware compared to my friend's Android phones, most significantly the excellent (and immediately available!) camera.

autotypo 9y ago
On Android 6 at least, double tapping the home button brings up the camera immediately.
- AceJohnny2 9y ago
  I'm thinking more of the hardware lag, especially the horror stories of the Nexus 6 and to a lesser extent Nexus 5X.
  - jaytaylor 9y ago
    Is this FUD? I have a Nexus and it's still working wonderfully.
muninn_ 9y ago
One of the issues is that running Android software on an iPhone inherently breaks a lot of the things that you love about iPhone. The reason is because of Apple’s verticals integration. Running Android would negate this and likely result in a not-so-great experience compared to native iOS.
nvarsj 9y ago
Samsung hardware has blown Apple out of the water for the last 3-4 years. I want Samsung screens and form factors with iOS. iOS is what makes iPhones great! Android is a giant tracking/ad/malware machine. It’s far too permissive to applications you install on it. My most recent negative experience were pop up ads that the Peel Remote started showing on my home screen. Peel remote is one of the force installed applications that Samsung’s touchwiz installs. It’s like Windows 95 with OEM bloatware, but worse.
- giobox 9y ago
  > Samsung hardware has blown Apple out of the water for the last 3-4 years No one familiar with the impressive lead in mobile CPU design Apple has carved the past few years would ever make this claim. It's far more than just iOS making Apple's iOS devices great today. You're wish for a better display is definitely valid though, and arguably gets granted at the end of this month.
- skinnymuch 9y ago
  Aren't the A chips Apple make really good? And are the cameras really inferior?
bitmapbrother 9y ago
>My dream device would be iPhone HW with Android software It's called the Pixel 2.
- mehrdada 9y ago
  Nah, sorry to break it for you, but the Qualcomm chip is nowhere close to A11.
  - bitmapbrother 9y ago
    Yeah, sorry to break this to you, but that A11 isn't fairing too well against Android phones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kpD3XCp49o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kpD3XCp49o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G669OgskM0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G669OgskM0 Let's see how that A11 is on battery efficiency: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbSjUq_kvSM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbSjUq_kvSM
    - davemp 9y ago
      How does that battery life test show anything about the A11’s efficiency? - The displays will be drawing a huge majority of the power—diminishing the effect of the processors. - The batteries have massively different capacities.
      - bitmapbrother 9y ago
        The A11 is on a smaller die size and yet the battery usage has actually regressed from that of an A10 [1]. Additionally, the displays do draw a lot of power, but so does video processing and games and the A11 doesn't seem to offer that much of an advantage, if any from a battery perspective, than the A10. [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-691mHL1to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-691mHL1to
        davemp 9y ago
        I'm not going to watch any more 10min hobbyist benchmark videos.
wutbrodo 9y ago
> compared to my friend's Android phones One universal fallacy I've noted since the beginning of Android and iOS is seeing people compare $30 Android phones with iPhones, which target only the premium part of the market. I've used primarily the Galaxy S line but my friends have had Nexuses etc, and the hardware quality (screen, camera, compute speed,build quality) has been about as good (with variance in both directions) as contemporary iPhones for many years now (helped along by the fact that the galaxy S6 aped iPhone's design pretty aggressively).

kevin_b_er 9y ago

Don't worry, your default browser is safari and will always be safari. The chrome browser isn't really chrome, just a reskinned safari. Apple doesn't permit any real browsers except safari.

fjksksvdjsjd 9y ago

Or inbox/gmail. All mailto links are hardwired to the shitty built-in imap client.

peteretep 9y ago

> The only real annoyance with > iOS is you can't set Chrome nor > Maps as default applications. Or indeed Gmail. Apple Fanboi that I am, I'd love to see them hit with an anti-competition suit in the UK that forced them to publish APIs to allow other apps to replace the core suite.