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I stopped using Github for private repos for three years. I get them for free from Bitbucket and Gitlab. So, I think the actual contender to Gitlab is Bitbucket

I stopped using Github for private repos for three years. I get them for free from Bitbucket and Gitlab. So, I think the actual contender to Gitlab is Bitbucket and not Github. However, Bitbucket feels a bit more organized and mature (the UI). What I also like: Bitbucket has the real Trello integrated which is great. I still like Gitlab, it's always good to have competition.

dominotw 9y ago
what does this comment have to do with parent comment about site reliability/uptime ?
skinnymuch 9y ago
How is Github not the main contender just because of private repo pricing? GitHub is the Goliath here. Also none of this has anything to do with up or down time.
- baldfat 9y ago
  > GitHub is the Goliath here For open source projects, but it appears to me that the enterprise projects are more BitBucket. This is just my experience, but I can't see how GitHub even competes with Enterprise Support that comes from BitBucket.
  - skinnymuch 9y ago
    Hm perhaps. Without any knowledge or info whatsoever, I'd think that Bitbucket and Github are close for enterprise too just because of how big Github is. And then Bitbucket obviously has the experience and integrations that Atlassian provides to be competitive. Still feels like the edge would go to Github Enterprise in terms of popularity and revenue if I had to pick one. I'm also partially basing this on Atlassian's public company market cap and revenue. I believe Atlassian does close to $65M a month in revenue (they did $58M/month in the quarter ending in June)[0]. GitHub I believe does around $15M/month in revenue nowadays[1][2]. They both lose some money. I actually believe around the same amount, $4-7M a month. Jira, Confluence, and potentially something else have to take the bulk of Atlassian's earnings. Gitlab keeps raising money at pretty high valuations so I'm probably underestimating the industry as a whole anyway and missing some info. 0: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/atlassian-announces-fourth-quarter-fiscal-200500544.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/atlassian-announces-fourth-qu... 1: https://medium.com/@moritzplassnig/github-is-doing-much-better-than-bloomberg-thinks-here-is-why-a4580b249044https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-15/github-is-building-a-coder-s-paradise-it-s-not-coming-cheap https://medium.com/@moritzplassnig/github-is-doing-much-bett... 2:
  - manigandham 9y ago
    Github Enterprise has a lot of uptake in larger companies: https://enterprise.github.com/ https://enterprise.github.com/
matteeyah 9y ago
> What I also like: Bitbucket has the real Trello integrated which is great. We have an issue board built-in - https://about.gitlab.com/features/issueboard/ https://about.gitlab.com/features/issueboard/ If you have any suggestions, we'd love to hear how we can improve it (or any other part of GitLab; e.g. the UI) - https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues
- sanswork 9y ago
  Is there anyway to make issue boards the default on a per project basis so accessing them isn't a two step process?
  - mgbmtl 9y ago
    +1 this would be really nice. Currently we can choose between "latest activity" or "browse files". Adding an option for "issue board" (and "list of issues") would be great. My non-tech colleagues get pretty lost when they go to the project's home page and see either files or a list of commits.
    - jobvandervoort 9y ago
      So as landing page? That is an interesting idea. I've created an issue. Would love to get your thoughts there: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/38954 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/38954
      - mgbmtl 9y ago
        Thank you! I will follow/comment on the issue.
  - jobvandervoort 9y ago
    You should be able to access them directly today by hovering over the navigation item on the left for issues and selecting board there. Or do you mean as a landing page for the project (I see a comment below here that clearly indicates that, will follow up on this, there)?

dominotw 9y ago

what does this comment have to do with parent comment about site reliability/uptime ?

skinnymuch 9y ago

How is Github not the main contender just because of private repo pricing? GitHub is the Goliath here. Also none of this has anything to do with up or down time.

baldfat 9y ago
> GitHub is the Goliath here For open source projects, but it appears to me that the enterprise projects are more BitBucket. This is just my experience, but I can't see how GitHub even competes with Enterprise Support that comes from BitBucket.
- skinnymuch 9y ago
  Hm perhaps. Without any knowledge or info whatsoever, I'd think that Bitbucket and Github are close for enterprise too just because of how big Github is. And then Bitbucket obviously has the experience and integrations that Atlassian provides to be competitive. Still feels like the edge would go to Github Enterprise in terms of popularity and revenue if I had to pick one. I'm also partially basing this on Atlassian's public company market cap and revenue. I believe Atlassian does close to $65M a month in revenue (they did $58M/month in the quarter ending in June)[0]. GitHub I believe does around $15M/month in revenue nowadays[1][2]. They both lose some money. I actually believe around the same amount, $4-7M a month. Jira, Confluence, and potentially something else have to take the bulk of Atlassian's earnings. Gitlab keeps raising money at pretty high valuations so I'm probably underestimating the industry as a whole anyway and missing some info. 0: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/atlassian-announces-fourth-quarter-fiscal-200500544.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/atlassian-announces-fourth-qu... 1: https://medium.com/@moritzplassnig/github-is-doing-much-better-than-bloomberg-thinks-here-is-why-a4580b249044https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-15/github-is-building-a-coder-s-paradise-it-s-not-coming-cheap https://medium.com/@moritzplassnig/github-is-doing-much-bett... 2:
- manigandham 9y ago
  Github Enterprise has a lot of uptake in larger companies: https://enterprise.github.com/ https://enterprise.github.com/

matteeyah 9y ago

> What I also like: Bitbucket has the real Trello integrated which is great. We have an issue board built-in - https://about.gitlab.com/features/issueboard/ https://about.gitlab.com/features/issueboard/ If you have any suggestions, we'd love to hear how we can improve it (or any other part of GitLab; e.g. the UI) - https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues

sanswork 9y ago
Is there anyway to make issue boards the default on a per project basis so accessing them isn't a two step process?
- mgbmtl 9y ago
  +1 this would be really nice. Currently we can choose between "latest activity" or "browse files". Adding an option for "issue board" (and "list of issues") would be great. My non-tech colleagues get pretty lost when they go to the project's home page and see either files or a list of commits.
  - jobvandervoort 9y ago
    So as landing page? That is an interesting idea. I've created an issue. Would love to get your thoughts there: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/38954 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/38954
    - mgbmtl 9y ago
      Thank you! I will follow/comment on the issue.
- jobvandervoort 9y ago
  You should be able to access them directly today by hovering over the navigation item on the left for issues and selecting board there. Or do you mean as a landing page for the project (I see a comment below here that clearly indicates that, will follow up on this, there)?