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But why don't they just switch to Windows 8? It solves all their problems. /s

jm547ster 9y ago
Basically are if they’re moving to 10. It’s more or less a re-skin with added telemetry & Cortana. Personally I preferred 8 to 7, I guess the touchscreen oriented metro interface was enough for desktop purists to recoil in horror. Was really only “hardcore” gamers who were holder-outers anyway
- marksomnian 9y ago
  On a serious note, it seems like I was the only one who actually liked the Windows 8 start screen. Being able to rearrange your start menu was a killer feature for me, instead of searching for everything or pinning all my stuff to desktop.
  - Cacti 9y ago
    Windows 8 is a case study in first impressions and how much people hate change. It is superior to 7 in nearly all regards (the app/store infrastructure being a notable exception), and its UI is nearly identical to 7. But people couldn't get over the Start screen, even though it can be disabled. It's really amazing how much flack it got.
    - Frogolocalypse 9y ago
      It's nice to see I'm not the only person who doesn't mind 8.
      - y_u_no_rust 9y ago
        I liked 8.1 a lot I.0 was a bit rough
    - mattnewton 9y ago
      It got flak because of the random hodge podge of menu screens that could to decide if they were desktop or tablet oriented. Also getting thrown into full screen apps, the “charms”, and the broken windows store were other favorite targets of criticism. All this for basically no visible improvements if you weren’t using a tablet/laptop hybrid.
    - GrayShade 9y ago
      I might be downvoted since this is just a random anecdote, but at work I've seen a lot of computers having a specific performance issue on Windows 8. The symptoms were Task Manager showing disk usage at or near 100% with the total throughput being around 2 MB/s on an otherwise idle system. The files being accessed were the swap file (although the system had enough free memory) and sometime Office Click to Run stuff. It also happens when the system is not idle, so it's not a random background job. I thought it was fixed in Windows 10, but I've just seen it happen on a low-end laptop. My theory is that so many developers have SSDs now and almost nobody tests on an HDD. That $300 laptop feels unusable, much worse than Windows 7 has ever felt. This issue has been reported in many places (e.g. https://www.drivereasy.com/knowledge/fix-100-disk-usage-in-task-manager-improve-pc-performance-on-windows-10/ https://www.drivereasy.com/knowledge/fix-100-disk-usage-in-t...), but most of those solutions don't work. The other thing that bugs me is the start menu search sometimes not working. Anyway, my point was that between the Windows and Office telemetry (the latter nobody mentions), random Store apps getting installed automatically and long-standing issues such as these, there are other valid reasons to dislike Windows 8/10 than "fear of change".
    - NiveaGeForce 9y ago
      > (the app/store infrastructure being a notable exception) It was the start of a good thing. https://np.reddit.com/r/Surface/comments/6ifyxq/spotify_for_windows_10_available_now_in_the/dj5zq9e/ https://np.reddit.com/r/Surface/comments/6ifyxq/spotify_for_...

Basically are if they’re moving to 10. It’s more or less a re-skin with added telemetry & Cortana. Personally I preferred 8 to 7, I guess the touchscreen oriented metro interface was enough for desktop purists to recoil in horror. Was really only “hardcore” gamers who were holder-outers anyway

marksomnian 9y ago
On a serious note, it seems like I was the only one who actually liked the Windows 8 start screen. Being able to rearrange your start menu was a killer feature for me, instead of searching for everything or pinning all my stuff to desktop.
- Cacti 9y ago
  Windows 8 is a case study in first impressions and how much people hate change. It is superior to 7 in nearly all regards (the app/store infrastructure being a notable exception), and its UI is nearly identical to 7. But people couldn't get over the Start screen, even though it can be disabled. It's really amazing how much flack it got.
  - Frogolocalypse 9y ago
    It's nice to see I'm not the only person who doesn't mind 8.
    - y_u_no_rust 9y ago
      I liked 8.1 a lot I.0 was a bit rough
  - mattnewton 9y ago
    It got flak because of the random hodge podge of menu screens that could to decide if they were desktop or tablet oriented. Also getting thrown into full screen apps, the “charms”, and the broken windows store were other favorite targets of criticism. All this for basically no visible improvements if you weren’t using a tablet/laptop hybrid.
  - GrayShade 9y ago
    I might be downvoted since this is just a random anecdote, but at work I've seen a lot of computers having a specific performance issue on Windows 8. The symptoms were Task Manager showing disk usage at or near 100% with the total throughput being around 2 MB/s on an otherwise idle system. The files being accessed were the swap file (although the system had enough free memory) and sometime Office Click to Run stuff. It also happens when the system is not idle, so it's not a random background job. I thought it was fixed in Windows 10, but I've just seen it happen on a low-end laptop. My theory is that so many developers have SSDs now and almost nobody tests on an HDD. That $300 laptop feels unusable, much worse than Windows 7 has ever felt. This issue has been reported in many places (e.g. https://www.drivereasy.com/knowledge/fix-100-disk-usage-in-task-manager-improve-pc-performance-on-windows-10/ https://www.drivereasy.com/knowledge/fix-100-disk-usage-in-t...), but most of those solutions don't work. The other thing that bugs me is the start menu search sometimes not working. Anyway, my point was that between the Windows and Office telemetry (the latter nobody mentions), random Store apps getting installed automatically and long-standing issues such as these, there are other valid reasons to dislike Windows 8/10 than "fear of change".
  - NiveaGeForce 9y ago
    > (the app/store infrastructure being a notable exception) It was the start of a good thing. https://np.reddit.com/r/Surface/comments/6ifyxq/spotify_for_windows_10_available_now_in_the/dj5zq9e/ https://np.reddit.com/r/Surface/comments/6ifyxq/spotify_for_...