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Never use this if you’re applying in Germany or other European countries unless it’s an American company. Most companies hate exactly this kind of lines and the

Never use this if you’re applying in Germany or other European countries unless it’s an American company. Most companies hate exactly this kind of lines and they will ignore your CV

lr4444lr 9y ago
Can you give some examples of what succeeds on your side of the pond?
cbcoutinho 9y ago
How is quantifying your contribution to a company on a CV not taken positively?
- wott 9y ago
  Because it smells from 10 kilometres away like bullshit only management/sales people would dare to write? Truth is, most technical projects are failures or are thrashed for other reasons. So if everyone starts claiming a series of well-determined successes, then in all likeliness they are lying.
dreamfactored 9y ago
Disagree if you are going for anything senior in consulting. This stuff only sounds like meaningless buzzwords if you don't speak the language, just as all Swedish sounds to me like the Swedish chef muppet. We could similarly lol at the vagaries of techspeak or any other expert domain language with its portmanteaus and abbreviations. Non-wannabe users of this business type of language expect every word to be up for challenge and defendable, and are actually using it for concision not empty wordiness. Having said that, any expert argot does of course narrow your audience which may be undesirable and demonstrate poor communication skills (though sometimes you want to do precisely this and show you are a peer). What is alienating to Europeans is pushier approach and assumed familiarity in US-style cold sales, in B2B particularly. And also hidden assumptions of the MBA set (e.g. grow fast and cash out, and shareholder value being the sole true purpose of being in business) - those need to be made explicit and don't always align to company missions.
earlybike 9y ago
> Most [EU] companies hate exactly this kind of lines and they will ignore your CV Disagree. Finally it depends on the content your actual achievements but the wording is totally fine + learned. Most EU companies shouldn't have any problems with this style.
- camillomiller 9y ago
  Try and do that with a truly German company. I do agree that things changed, but they definitively prefer a modest "lebenslauf" (just a list of your studies and previous positions, basically) to a self-centered American-style CV. I'm not saying it's better, it's just a different approach.
  - earlybike 9y ago
    Disagree again, especially in Germany US-style CVs with focus on achievements and accomplishments are learned, appreciated and have a much higher conversion than descpriptive CVs.

Never use this if you’re applying in Germany or other European countries unless it’s an American company. Most companies hate exactly this kind of lines and they will ignore your CV

lr4444lr 9y ago

Can you give some examples of what succeeds on your side of the pond?

cbcoutinho 9y ago

How is quantifying your contribution to a company on a CV not taken positively?

wott 9y ago
Because it smells from 10 kilometres away like bullshit only management/sales people would dare to write? Truth is, most technical projects are failures or are thrashed for other reasons. So if everyone starts claiming a series of well-determined successes, then in all likeliness they are lying.

dreamfactored 9y ago

Disagree if you are going for anything senior in consulting. This stuff only sounds like meaningless buzzwords if you don't speak the language, just as all Swedish sounds to me like the Swedish chef muppet. We could similarly lol at the vagaries of techspeak or any other expert domain language with its portmanteaus and abbreviations. Non-wannabe users of this business type of language expect every word to be up for challenge and defendable, and are actually using it for concision not empty wordiness. Having said that, any expert argot does of course narrow your audience which may be undesirable and demonstrate poor communication skills (though sometimes you want to do precisely this and show you are a peer). What is alienating to Europeans is pushier approach and assumed familiarity in US-style cold sales, in B2B particularly. And also hidden assumptions of the MBA set (e.g. grow fast and cash out, and shareholder value being the sole true purpose of being in business) - those need to be made explicit and don't always align to company missions.

earlybike 9y ago

> Most [EU] companies hate exactly this kind of lines and they will ignore your CV Disagree. Finally it depends on the content your actual achievements but the wording is totally fine + learned. Most EU companies shouldn't have any problems with this style.

camillomiller 9y ago
Try and do that with a truly German company. I do agree that things changed, but they definitively prefer a modest "lebenslauf" (just a list of your studies and previous positions, basically) to a self-centered American-style CV. I'm not saying it's better, it's just a different approach.
- earlybike 9y ago
  Disagree again, especially in Germany US-style CVs with focus on achievements and accomplishments are learned, appreciated and have a much higher conversion than descpriptive CVs.