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> Officials told Politico that Kelly had not used the personal phone since joining the administration in January, and has reportedly been using a different phon
by iaw 9y ago
> Officials told Politico that Kelly had not used the personal phone since joining the administration in January, and has reportedly been using a different phone since. He reportedly relies on his government phone while at the White House.
Then why did he bring it to the White House IT team because it stopped working/updating?
Edit: To clarify, it's not that he took it to the White House IT team (that's appropriate). It's the question of why he would notice if it wasn't working, the type of technical complaint described in the articles seems to argue a little against him not using it at all.
- wmgries 9y agoAs an important government official, would you rather he gone to the Verizon store when his phone stopped working?
- orev 9y agoYou’ve completely missed the point of this comment
- kornish 9y agoTo play devil's advocate, maybe he was using it for the first time since January and found that it didn't work.
- iaw 9y agoThat's the only scenario I could come up with as well. The line about "stopped updating" may be a miscommunication of "he went to update it after not using it since January, found it not working, and brought it to the IT department."
- wmgries 9y agoHave I? If a White House official finds their personal device has been hacked or isn't working properly, what is the right next step?
- mattbreeden 9y agoThe original comment was just making a point that if he wasn't using the phone he wouldn't have noticed it stopped working/updating. The second portion could have been written as: "Then how did he notice it stopped working/updating?" to avoid some of the confusion.
- iaw 9y agoWhile English is my first language clearly me at it no good. I've added an edit to provide the clarity that should've been there initially.
- prawn 9y agoI think they're noting that he claimed that he wasn't using it. Then, how had he noticed it wasn't working properly if he wasn't using it?
- Turing_Machine 9y agoThere are many possibilities. My money is based on the fact that iOS 11 just came out. "Hmm... I see that there's a new iOS....Better update my personal phone even though I'm not using it at the moment...Wow! This phone is acting weird! Better take it to the security people at work." I don't know that's what happened, but it's certainly plausible. If it is, it speaks well for Kelly's powers of observation (noticing that the phone was behaving in an unusual way) and ability to choose a proper course of action (taking it to the security professionals at the White House, rather than, as someone else noted, Geek Squad or whatever minimum wage clerk was manning the counter at the Verizon store).
- adventured 9y ago> Then, how had he noticed it wasn't working properly if he wasn't using it? How about any number of several dozen extremely obvious possibilities. A family photo album is on the personal phone and he wanted to retrieve it, so he used the phone and noticed something was wrong with it. He needed to retrieve contact information for a friend that was stored on it. You know, the same exact reasons any of us might fire up an old phone we still have.
- beambot 9y ago> You’ve completely missed the point of this comment Which is...?
- ceejayoz 9y ago"If he hasn't used it since January, how did he discover it wasn't working correctly?"
- mirimir 9y agoOne can power up a device, to see if it's working, without actually using it.
- jezclaremurugan 9y agoAnd still that would result in all the data/email/messages syncing to the apps in the mobile. Just powering up -- fires up a whole bunch of background activity without one "actually using it".
- mirimir 9y agoSure, but the issue in this subthread is whether he lied in saying that he hadn't "used" it since January.
- subcosmos 9y agoThey've gotta be better than Geek Squad
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- maxerickson 9y agoThe Politico article is clearer. A White House spokesman said Kelly hadn’t used the personal phone often since joining the administration. This official said Kelly relied on his government-issued phone for official communications. The official, who did not dispute any of POLITICO’s reporting on the timeline of events or the existence of the memo, said Kelly no longer had possession of the device but declined to say where the phone is now. Kelly has since begun using a different phone, one of the officials said, though he relies on his government phone when he’s inside the White House. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/05/john-kelly-cell-phone-compromised-243514 http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/05/john-kelly-cell-pho... "often" makes all the difference.