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To be fair, most new laptops like the Surface Pro or Dell's XPS 13 make it pretty darn hard to upgrade the memory or hard drive.

JohnTHaller 9y ago
XPS laptops use standard nvme m.2 SSDs. Source: have one that I've opened up
huhtenberg 9y ago
> most new laptops _some_ new laptops Most new laptops are still fully serviceable.
- seanmcdirmid 9y ago
  Most is really ambiguous here. By units sold? Probably not (mass quantity low end laptops aren't upgradable). By dollar amount sold? Definitely not (Apple has an outsized share of the market based on revenue). By new models? Probably.
  - Someone 9y ago
    ”Apple has an outsized share of the market based on revenue” On profit, I can believe, but on revenue? Even at 10% market share, Macs would have to be five times the price of PCs to bring in equal revenue.
    - seanmcdirmid 9y ago
      Sure. It isn't just the macs that you need to count, but the PCs as well. Non upgrade-able ultra lights dominate the post $1000 market even for pcs.
    - valuearb 9y ago
      Apple has about 7% of pc market world-wide. It's average sales price is around $1,200 to $1,400 (haven't checked lately). Average PC maker ASP is $500-$600, so Apple likely has 15-20% of market by revenues, and more than 50% of market profits, given it's 15-20% margins vs. 2% PC maker margins. This is all PCs. In laptops it's likely that Apple's share is even higher.
EthanHeilman 9y ago
I upgraded my Dell XPS 13 recently. Only tricky part was buying the special screwdriver bits which cost me 10 dollars on amazon. It was probably the easiest laptop upgrade I've ever done in the last 17 years.
ageofwant 9y ago
I swapped out my XPS 13's broadcom flaming piece of shit radio for a intel chipset, AU$25. The disk is a swappable M.2 . They retail for ~AU$600 for a 500G. Dropped a mail to Dell Australia for a quote to upgrade the 8G MB to 16G, took them 5 working days to quote: 2 week job, AU$2300, I paid AU$2100 for the machine new. Fuck you Dell.

JohnTHaller 9y ago

XPS laptops use standard nvme m.2 SSDs. Source: have one that I've opened up

huhtenberg 9y ago

> most new laptops _some_ new laptops Most new laptops are still fully serviceable.

seanmcdirmid 9y ago
Most is really ambiguous here. By units sold? Probably not (mass quantity low end laptops aren't upgradable). By dollar amount sold? Definitely not (Apple has an outsized share of the market based on revenue). By new models? Probably.
- Someone 9y ago
  ”Apple has an outsized share of the market based on revenue” On profit, I can believe, but on revenue? Even at 10% market share, Macs would have to be five times the price of PCs to bring in equal revenue.
  - seanmcdirmid 9y ago
    Sure. It isn't just the macs that you need to count, but the PCs as well. Non upgrade-able ultra lights dominate the post $1000 market even for pcs.
  - valuearb 9y ago
    Apple has about 7% of pc market world-wide. It's average sales price is around $1,200 to $1,400 (haven't checked lately). Average PC maker ASP is $500-$600, so Apple likely has 15-20% of market by revenues, and more than 50% of market profits, given it's 15-20% margins vs. 2% PC maker margins. This is all PCs. In laptops it's likely that Apple's share is even higher.

EthanHeilman 9y ago

I upgraded my Dell XPS 13 recently. Only tricky part was buying the special screwdriver bits which cost me 10 dollars on amazon. It was probably the easiest laptop upgrade I've ever done in the last 17 years.

ageofwant 9y ago

I swapped out my XPS 13's broadcom flaming piece of shit radio for a intel chipset, AU$25. The disk is a swappable M.2 . They retail for ~AU$600 for a 500G. Dropped a mail to Dell Australia for a quote to upgrade the 8G MB to 16G, took them 5 working days to quote: 2 week job, AU$2300, I paid AU$2100 for the machine new. Fuck you Dell.