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Great article. I share many of the tastes of the author (e.g. "Coffee was drinkable—in fact, positively delicious—only with milk and sugar" and "I couldn’t imag

Great article. I share many of the tastes of the author (e.g. "Coffee was drinkable—in fact, positively delicious—only with milk and sugar" and "I couldn’t imagine why anyone would eat a radish unless paid") but I don't have an aversion to wine. What I have an aversion to is people who want to talk endlessly about wine. Or people who pretend they'd actually bother with wine in the first place if it didn't give them a buzz. Or anyone who expects me to spend more than five bucks a bottle (ok I can go as high as ten if it's a restaurant). Aside from the whole issue of genetic differences between people and their fungiform papillae, I think the one line that gets to the heart of why people get so obsessive about wine is "no other pursuit made him feel farther from the lower-middle-class neighborhoods of immigrant Brooklyn from which he had worked so hard to escape".

sddfd 9y ago
If you don't know anything about wine, the safest thing is to just go with what you like. And this means first and foremost ignoring price and prestige even if you'll be called a philistine. One thing about wine I really enjoy is that there are so many different tastes available, and that tastes may vary by year. If you're still exploring your preferences, I'd recommend to stay below 30€/bottle (reseller price, not restaurant) and try a lot of different ones (not necessarily on the same evening thought).
- robbrown451 9y ago
  Maybe you are talking to others, not me, but I'm not "still exploring my preferences" regarding wine. I honestly don't care...there are probably 10,000 things that I would rather spend my time exploring compared to wine. I enjoy wine 99% for the buzz, and if want something that genuinely pleases me as it goes down the hatch, and I'm not trying to impress anyone with my sophisticated tastes, my first choice would have to be a combination of whole milk and Nesquik powder.
  - autokad 9y ago
    it depends on what foods you are eating. wine goes really well with certain foods eaten in a certain order. if you could care less about maximizing the experience, thats fine, but drinking and enjoying wine is not about some 'pretending to be wealthy' feeling.
    - jaggederest 9y ago
      > wine goes really well with certain foods eaten in a certain order. > drinking and enjoying wine is not about some 'pretending to be wealthy' feeling. I'm pretty sure that these two statements are contradictory. Wine tastes good, and it tastes good with other things, but in no way more special than say, other fruit juices or beverages. Do you maximize the experience of a fine meal with a flight of six different orange juices? No, nobody ever does that. And yet there is certainly as much variation in citrus juice as there is in grape. Wine is treated differently precisely for the kind of reasons that you have to explicitly disclaim "pretending to be wealthy" as a motivation.
      - foldr 9y ago
        Orange juice clearly doesn't go with food in the same way that wine does.
        delecti 9y ago
        As someone who enjoys orange juice and thinks more than 95% of wine tastes awful, I agree but probably in the opposite direction that you intended with your statement.
        foldr 9y ago
        I enjoy orange juice too, but it doesn't go well with food.
        kbutler 9y ago
        I'm with the grandparent on this one - I like OJ with various foods.
  - corndoge 9y ago
    I'm with you, I'll take chocolate milk over port every day of the week
    - matwood 9y ago
      But, a desert wine with dark chocolate taste so good together :)
      - ionised 9y ago
        Alcohol and chocolate are something that I will never understand putting together.
        matwood 9y ago
        Have you tired it? A sweet vinsanto and good chocolate compliment each other and really enhance the flavors of both.
        ionised 9y ago
        Yes, that's why I said what I said. The mix of the two in my stomach is not a pleasant feeling.
  - sanderjd 9y ago
    Why do you seem so aggressive about this? Don't drink wine if you don't like it. Nobody cares what you do. Lots of people do like wine. What difference does it make to you?
- secabeen 9y ago
  Well, there is a lot of evidence that your perception of the quality of a wine actually effects how you taste it. If you can somehow convince yourself that a $3 bottle is actually $30 bottle (or more), you'll actually like it better!
  - nightski 9y ago
    It's just not true at the very low price points. I can drink 3 buck chuck anytime but I will know it is 3 buck chuck. Why? It's much harsher and lacks any depth in flavor. Now give me a good wine in the $15-20 range and it can be incredibly satisfying. There are also plenty of bad expensive wines. But as you dip below the $10 mark I have yet to find a wine that isn't much harsher and harder to drink.
    - arbuge 9y ago
      Any recommendations?
      - staticautomatic 9y ago
        In terms of value: For red, Portugal can't be beat. For white, Gascogne.
      - xapata 9y ago
        Tempranillo. It's light like a Pinot Noir, but without the cachet that the Sideways movie gave, so they tend to be cheaper.
        Avshalom 9y ago
        I am super pissed in a not actually pissed at all sorts of way that my local liquor stores seem to be stocking entirely 100% tempranillo. I don't know if Spain just gave into the American obsession with varietals or what but personally I love a 70-90 trempranillo but it's very much a grape that benefits from a blend.
    - robbrown451 9y ago
- ars 9y ago
  > the safest thing is to just go with what you like. I have never tasted a wine I liked. Ever. At best some were tolerable. The sweeter the better. Dry wines taste absolutely disgusting. Like someone collected filth and put it in a bottle to trick people (the emperor has no clothes). I once tried adding sugar to a dry wine to see if I could taste those flavor notes the bottle said they contained. It helped a bit, but not much. Like a color blind person not believing color really exists, I have a hard time believing people that they actually like the stuff.
  - fmihaila 9y ago
    I enjoy wine, but I understand where you're coming from. It turns out that neuroscience has some intriguing things to say about the general concept of 'acquired taste'. For instance, the first time people heard Stravinsky's 'Rite of Spring', they rioted. This Radiolab episode [1] discusses an interesting hypothesis that might explain the events of that night, and I strongly suspect the same factors are the reason for similar reactions to many different kinds of stimuli, possibly including your experience with wine. Anyway, it's a great episode. [1] http://www.radiolab.org/story/91512-musical-language/ http://www.radiolab.org/story/91512-musical-language/
  - cc81 9y ago
    Do you like beer or coffee? Those two are also pretty harsh and not sweet. The reason why I like red wine is because I can select ones that are not sweet and I really enjoy non sweet drinks with food. Water is nice and what I usually drink but it is pretty neutral and does not add to the meal the same way wine can do. However I'm not a fan of alcohol so I have been starting to drink non-alcoholic beers (I like lagers and I think those are fine as non-alcohol) but I have not found a good non-alcoholic red wine yet. I would love to though so if anyone has any recommendations please tell.
    - ars 9y ago
      I do not like coffee, but I'll drink it with sugar if I need the stimulation (although normally I'll just swallow a spoonful of dried instant coffee instead to get it down quick). I'm neutral toward beer, don't really like it, but don't hate it either.
- matwood 9y ago
  > If you don't know anything about wine, the safest thing is to just go with what you like. Even if you do know about wine this is what you should be doing. Drinking expensive wine because it's expensive is the wrong thing to do. The people who I know who really know wine are always in search of good wine that is also inexpensive.
- kstenerud 9y ago
  Also, a wine rating app like vivino is a good way to explore wines while (hopefully) avoiding the ones that are utter shit. Just pick whatever's cheap and rated 3.8 or higher, and you'll usually find something decent.
- radarsat1 9y ago
  > ignoring price and prestige It's funny to lump these together. Having lived in a couple of wine-producing countries now, I've found the wine culture is heavily centered around finding the best price for the best wine. Finding a half-way decent low-priced wine is considered just as much a skill as knowing which high-priced wines are actually worth the cost.
- SilasX 9y ago
  >One thing about wine I really enjoy is that there are so many different tastes available, and that tastes may vary by year. Are there? You may be missing that not everyone even notices this enormous variation in taste[1]. For my part, all wines taste like sting-y grape juice, and most beers taste like empty sting. This persists after numerous wine/beer connoisseurs have insisted that I just need to try one more of this special brand, or insisted that each wine in a particular flight has a very different taste. For that matter, perhaps you're just imagining the flavor variation and have tuned yourself to give the socially-correct answer? Furthermore, there may be an unrecognized disagreement in the basic ontology of "liking" something. I know people who will swear up and down that they "like alcohol", but it turns out they only like it when it's heavily diluted with other, universally enjoyable flavors (e.g. sugar). In my book, that's not what liking something looks like. See also this reddit thread, with numerous posters agreeing that all alcohols taste gross to them: https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/2juncs/do_people_actually_enjoy_the_taste_of_alcohol_and/ https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/2juncs/d... [1] Important reading: "What universal human experiences are you missing out on without realizing it?" Punchline: people casually assume that all humans experience X, ground major beliefs on X, and turn out to be mistaken. http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/03/17/what-universal-human-experiences-are-you-missing-without-realizing-it/ http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/03/17/what-universal-human-ex...
Avshalom 9y ago
>>What I have an aversion to is people who want to talk endlessly about wine Do these people actually exist or have you just heard about them on TV and over-match any time you hear some one talk about wine for more than 30 seconds?
- robbrown451 9y ago
  I have certainly been to parties where we are standing around drinking wine, and my eyes glaze over as people talk about wine for a lot longer than I'd like. And they talk about going to tasting events and whatnot where they can presumably talk at even more length about it.
  - Avshalom 9y ago
    So sometimes, when drinking wine, people talk about wine? And that's just too much for you.
    - robbrown451 9y ago
      The length and detail annoys me. I tolerate it, I just don't enjoy it. It comes off as pretentious. And it just falls into the "why is this so important to you?" territory.
      - FabHK 9y ago
        > "why is this so important to you?" territory. You mean, "terroir".
      - Avshalom 9y ago
        Again though how much length is it really and how much length is it you mentally adding because it is for some reason important to you that it shouldn't be important to them. And by 'important to them' I mean: 'discussing the activity while, and only while, they are currently doing it'
        9y ago
R_haterade 9y ago
I used to be the same way. If you have the stomach for it though, I urge you to pick up a $10 Malbec or carmenere. The flavor is much more distinct (and spicy). I find they go great with even heavy, spicy meals.
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dvfjsdhgfv 9y ago
> Or anyone who expects me to spend more than five bucks a bottle (ok I can go as high as ten if it's a restaurant). Apart from the fact than nobody should expect you to spend any money on anything... Just like everything else, wines differ, among others, in quality. If you spend 5 bucks on a bottle, chances are what you're drinking is really bad. It is possible to find decent wine in this range, but it's quite difficult.
- enraged_camel 9y ago
  Yeah, $5 wine is basically cooking wine. It isn't meant to be consumed as a beverage. On the other hand, the average person is unlikely to be able to tell the difference between a $25 bottle of wine and a $2500 bottle of wine.
  - icebraining 9y ago
    Not really, you can find plenty of decent Italian and Portuguese wines for that price. To take the first example I found, the 2014 Quinta de Cabriz is 46th in the world top 100 of the Wine Spectator and costs $5 in Portugal, and less than $7 in the US. The last wine I drank was a Montepulciano d'Abruzzo; I can't remember the specific winemaker, but it was quite nice and was less than $9, despite being bought in another European country.
  - cletus 9y ago
    This is completely misguided. When you cook with wine you lose all the alcohol, which is the only constant between two bottles of wine. You're just left with the rest from which comes the taste. There's no such thing as "cooking wine". Bad wine is bad wine. If you wouldn't drink it, don't cook with it. That all being said, I personally think wine snobbery is basically bullshit and I think blind taste tests tend to support that view. Still, a wine isn't bad because it's $5. Nor is it good because it's $30. When I lived in the UK I'd often get by with the table wine from Tesco for under 5 pounds and honestly it was fine. I found quite a few decent bottles of Portugese and Chilean wine for under 10 pounds. Beaujolais wasn't more than 3-5 pounds.
jdavis703 9y ago
I had an interesting "blind" taste test. I had gone to a winery, sampled some of the wines and decided to buy the one I liked the most (it was about $100). I put it in the back cupboard thinking I'll save it for something special. Then on some random night me and the girlfriend are watching TV and she decides to get some wine. I'm thinking we'll drink one of the $10 bottles. Instead I start drinking and am like this is so good, which wine is this blah blah. Then I find out it's the super expensive one. Even if there wasn't any alcohol in that, I would've still enjoyed it.
jameshart 9y ago
It’s perfectly normal to have an aversion to people who want to talk endlessly about anything. Wine isn’t special. I have had similar issues with Android handset aficionados.
- katastic 9y ago
  My. God. That's got to be one of the silliest, most insane things to actually care about.
  - betenoire 9y ago
    Are you referring to headsets or to people who care too much about what other people enjoy?
microtherion 9y ago
> What I have an aversion to is people who want to talk endlessly about wine. I'm trying to popularize the term "enanists" for that sort of people.
amyjess 9y ago
On a similar note, I have an aversion to people who tell me that I'm drinking wine wrong because I prefer sweet wine. I will gladly wolf down moscato, red moscato, moscato d'asti, kosher concord wine, gewürztraminer, port, etc., and I'm just not a fan of any wine that isn't sweet. I had someone tell me to my face once that "the good wines aren't sweet". I honestly don't care. I like what I like, and if someone tries to tell me that I'm wrong for liking what I like, my opinion of them goes down.

sddfd 9y ago

If you don't know anything about wine, the safest thing is to just go with what you like. And this means first and foremost ignoring price and prestige even if you'll be called a philistine. One thing about wine I really enjoy is that there are so many different tastes available, and that tastes may vary by year. If you're still exploring your preferences, I'd recommend to stay below 30€/bottle (reseller price, not restaurant) and try a lot of different ones (not necessarily on the same evening thought).

robbrown451 9y ago
Maybe you are talking to others, not me, but I'm not "still exploring my preferences" regarding wine. I honestly don't care...there are probably 10,000 things that I would rather spend my time exploring compared to wine. I enjoy wine 99% for the buzz, and if want something that genuinely pleases me as it goes down the hatch, and I'm not trying to impress anyone with my sophisticated tastes, my first choice would have to be a combination of whole milk and Nesquik powder.
- autokad 9y ago
  it depends on what foods you are eating. wine goes really well with certain foods eaten in a certain order. if you could care less about maximizing the experience, thats fine, but drinking and enjoying wine is not about some 'pretending to be wealthy' feeling.
  - jaggederest 9y ago
    > wine goes really well with certain foods eaten in a certain order. > drinking and enjoying wine is not about some 'pretending to be wealthy' feeling. I'm pretty sure that these two statements are contradictory. Wine tastes good, and it tastes good with other things, but in no way more special than say, other fruit juices or beverages. Do you maximize the experience of a fine meal with a flight of six different orange juices? No, nobody ever does that. And yet there is certainly as much variation in citrus juice as there is in grape. Wine is treated differently precisely for the kind of reasons that you have to explicitly disclaim "pretending to be wealthy" as a motivation.
    - foldr 9y ago
      Orange juice clearly doesn't go with food in the same way that wine does.
      - delecti 9y ago
        As someone who enjoys orange juice and thinks more than 95% of wine tastes awful, I agree but probably in the opposite direction that you intended with your statement.
        foldr 9y ago
        I enjoy orange juice too, but it doesn't go well with food.
        kbutler 9y ago
        I'm with the grandparent on this one - I like OJ with various foods.
- corndoge 9y ago
  I'm with you, I'll take chocolate milk over port every day of the week
  - matwood 9y ago
    But, a desert wine with dark chocolate taste so good together :)
    - ionised 9y ago
      Alcohol and chocolate are something that I will never understand putting together.
      - matwood 9y ago
        Have you tired it? A sweet vinsanto and good chocolate compliment each other and really enhance the flavors of both.
        ionised 9y ago
        Yes, that's why I said what I said. The mix of the two in my stomach is not a pleasant feeling.
- sanderjd 9y ago
  Why do you seem so aggressive about this? Don't drink wine if you don't like it. Nobody cares what you do. Lots of people do like wine. What difference does it make to you?
secabeen 9y ago
Well, there is a lot of evidence that your perception of the quality of a wine actually effects how you taste it. If you can somehow convince yourself that a $3 bottle is actually $30 bottle (or more), you'll actually like it better!
- nightski 9y ago
  It's just not true at the very low price points. I can drink 3 buck chuck anytime but I will know it is 3 buck chuck. Why? It's much harsher and lacks any depth in flavor. Now give me a good wine in the $15-20 range and it can be incredibly satisfying. There are also plenty of bad expensive wines. But as you dip below the $10 mark I have yet to find a wine that isn't much harsher and harder to drink.
  - arbuge 9y ago
    Any recommendations?
    - staticautomatic 9y ago
      In terms of value: For red, Portugal can't be beat. For white, Gascogne.
    - xapata 9y ago
      Tempranillo. It's light like a Pinot Noir, but without the cachet that the Sideways movie gave, so they tend to be cheaper.
      - Avshalom 9y ago
        I am super pissed in a not actually pissed at all sorts of way that my local liquor stores seem to be stocking entirely 100% tempranillo. I don't know if Spain just gave into the American obsession with varietals or what but personally I love a 70-90 trempranillo but it's very much a grape that benefits from a blend.
  - robbrown451 9y ago
ars 9y ago
> the safest thing is to just go with what you like. I have never tasted a wine I liked. Ever. At best some were tolerable. The sweeter the better. Dry wines taste absolutely disgusting. Like someone collected filth and put it in a bottle to trick people (the emperor has no clothes). I once tried adding sugar to a dry wine to see if I could taste those flavor notes the bottle said they contained. It helped a bit, but not much. Like a color blind person not believing color really exists, I have a hard time believing people that they actually like the stuff.
- fmihaila 9y ago
  I enjoy wine, but I understand where you're coming from. It turns out that neuroscience has some intriguing things to say about the general concept of 'acquired taste'. For instance, the first time people heard Stravinsky's 'Rite of Spring', they rioted. This Radiolab episode [1] discusses an interesting hypothesis that might explain the events of that night, and I strongly suspect the same factors are the reason for similar reactions to many different kinds of stimuli, possibly including your experience with wine. Anyway, it's a great episode. [1] http://www.radiolab.org/story/91512-musical-language/ http://www.radiolab.org/story/91512-musical-language/
- cc81 9y ago
  Do you like beer or coffee? Those two are also pretty harsh and not sweet. The reason why I like red wine is because I can select ones that are not sweet and I really enjoy non sweet drinks with food. Water is nice and what I usually drink but it is pretty neutral and does not add to the meal the same way wine can do. However I'm not a fan of alcohol so I have been starting to drink non-alcoholic beers (I like lagers and I think those are fine as non-alcohol) but I have not found a good non-alcoholic red wine yet. I would love to though so if anyone has any recommendations please tell.
  - ars 9y ago
    I do not like coffee, but I'll drink it with sugar if I need the stimulation (although normally I'll just swallow a spoonful of dried instant coffee instead to get it down quick). I'm neutral toward beer, don't really like it, but don't hate it either.
matwood 9y ago
> If you don't know anything about wine, the safest thing is to just go with what you like. Even if you do know about wine this is what you should be doing. Drinking expensive wine because it's expensive is the wrong thing to do. The people who I know who really know wine are always in search of good wine that is also inexpensive.
kstenerud 9y ago
Also, a wine rating app like vivino is a good way to explore wines while (hopefully) avoiding the ones that are utter shit. Just pick whatever's cheap and rated 3.8 or higher, and you'll usually find something decent.
radarsat1 9y ago
> ignoring price and prestige It's funny to lump these together. Having lived in a couple of wine-producing countries now, I've found the wine culture is heavily centered around finding the best price for the best wine. Finding a half-way decent low-priced wine is considered just as much a skill as knowing which high-priced wines are actually worth the cost.
SilasX 9y ago
>One thing about wine I really enjoy is that there are so many different tastes available, and that tastes may vary by year. Are there? You may be missing that not everyone even notices this enormous variation in taste[1]. For my part, all wines taste like sting-y grape juice, and most beers taste like empty sting. This persists after numerous wine/beer connoisseurs have insisted that I just need to try one more of this special brand, or insisted that each wine in a particular flight has a very different taste. For that matter, perhaps you're just imagining the flavor variation and have tuned yourself to give the socially-correct answer? Furthermore, there may be an unrecognized disagreement in the basic ontology of "liking" something. I know people who will swear up and down that they "like alcohol", but it turns out they only like it when it's heavily diluted with other, universally enjoyable flavors (e.g. sugar). In my book, that's not what liking something looks like. See also this reddit thread, with numerous posters agreeing that all alcohols taste gross to them: https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/2juncs/do_people_actually_enjoy_the_taste_of_alcohol_and/ https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/2juncs/d... [1] Important reading: "What universal human experiences are you missing out on without realizing it?" Punchline: people casually assume that all humans experience X, ground major beliefs on X, and turn out to be mistaken. http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/03/17/what-universal-human-experiences-are-you-missing-without-realizing-it/ http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/03/17/what-universal-human-ex...

Avshalom 9y ago

>>What I have an aversion to is people who want to talk endlessly about wine Do these people actually exist or have you just heard about them on TV and over-match any time you hear some one talk about wine for more than 30 seconds?

robbrown451 9y ago
I have certainly been to parties where we are standing around drinking wine, and my eyes glaze over as people talk about wine for a lot longer than I'd like. And they talk about going to tasting events and whatnot where they can presumably talk at even more length about it.
- Avshalom 9y ago
  So sometimes, when drinking wine, people talk about wine? And that's just too much for you.
  - robbrown451 9y ago
    The length and detail annoys me. I tolerate it, I just don't enjoy it. It comes off as pretentious. And it just falls into the "why is this so important to you?" territory.
    - FabHK 9y ago
      > "why is this so important to you?" territory. You mean, "terroir".
    - Avshalom 9y ago
      Again though how much length is it really and how much length is it you mentally adding because it is for some reason important to you that it shouldn't be important to them. And by 'important to them' I mean: 'discussing the activity while, and only while, they are currently doing it'
      - 9y ago

R_haterade 9y ago

I used to be the same way. If you have the stomach for it though, I urge you to pick up a $10 Malbec or carmenere. The flavor is much more distinct (and spicy). I find they go great with even heavy, spicy meals.

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dvfjsdhgfv 9y ago

> Or anyone who expects me to spend more than five bucks a bottle (ok I can go as high as ten if it's a restaurant). Apart from the fact than nobody should expect you to spend any money on anything... Just like everything else, wines differ, among others, in quality. If you spend 5 bucks on a bottle, chances are what you're drinking is really bad. It is possible to find decent wine in this range, but it's quite difficult.

enraged_camel 9y ago
Yeah, $5 wine is basically cooking wine. It isn't meant to be consumed as a beverage. On the other hand, the average person is unlikely to be able to tell the difference between a $25 bottle of wine and a $2500 bottle of wine.
- icebraining 9y ago
  Not really, you can find plenty of decent Italian and Portuguese wines for that price. To take the first example I found, the 2014 Quinta de Cabriz is 46th in the world top 100 of the Wine Spectator and costs $5 in Portugal, and less than $7 in the US. The last wine I drank was a Montepulciano d'Abruzzo; I can't remember the specific winemaker, but it was quite nice and was less than $9, despite being bought in another European country.
- cletus 9y ago
  This is completely misguided. When you cook with wine you lose all the alcohol, which is the only constant between two bottles of wine. You're just left with the rest from which comes the taste. There's no such thing as "cooking wine". Bad wine is bad wine. If you wouldn't drink it, don't cook with it. That all being said, I personally think wine snobbery is basically bullshit and I think blind taste tests tend to support that view. Still, a wine isn't bad because it's $5. Nor is it good because it's $30. When I lived in the UK I'd often get by with the table wine from Tesco for under 5 pounds and honestly it was fine. I found quite a few decent bottles of Portugese and Chilean wine for under 10 pounds. Beaujolais wasn't more than 3-5 pounds.

jdavis703 9y ago

I had an interesting "blind" taste test. I had gone to a winery, sampled some of the wines and decided to buy the one I liked the most (it was about $100). I put it in the back cupboard thinking I'll save it for something special. Then on some random night me and the girlfriend are watching TV and she decides to get some wine. I'm thinking we'll drink one of the $10 bottles. Instead I start drinking and am like this is so good, which wine is this blah blah. Then I find out it's the super expensive one. Even if there wasn't any alcohol in that, I would've still enjoyed it.

jameshart 9y ago

It’s perfectly normal to have an aversion to people who want to talk endlessly about anything. Wine isn’t special. I have had similar issues with Android handset aficionados.

katastic 9y ago
My. God. That's got to be one of the silliest, most insane things to actually care about.
- betenoire 9y ago
  Are you referring to headsets or to people who care too much about what other people enjoy?

microtherion 9y ago

> What I have an aversion to is people who want to talk endlessly about wine. I'm trying to popularize the term "enanists" for that sort of people.

amyjess 9y ago

On a similar note, I have an aversion to people who tell me that I'm drinking wine wrong because I prefer sweet wine. I will gladly wolf down moscato, red moscato, moscato d'asti, kosher concord wine, gewürztraminer, port, etc., and I'm just not a fan of any wine that isn't sweet. I had someone tell me to my face once that "the good wines aren't sweet". I honestly don't care. I like what I like, and if someone tries to tell me that I'm wrong for liking what I like, my opinion of them goes down.