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Let's get the political reasoning straight. Under Spanish Constitution, supreme law in Spain, the right to determine the territory of Spain belongs to all Span
by ahachete 9y ago
Let's get the political reasoning straight.
Under Spanish Constitution, supreme law in Spain, the right to determine the territory of Spain belongs to all Spaniards (article 2).
What some people claim as "democracy" or "the right to vote" is actually removing this right from the rest of Spaniards.
Aside from other claims and whether there are political or historical reasons, the voting has been declared illegal by the "Tribunal Constitucional", highest court in Spain. End of story, it's illegal, period. And Spain (mostly judges and police forces) are trying to defend the law.
Now a quick note on the alleged economical facts: no, Catalonia does not contribute 16 billion to the rest of the country, it's actually 2,4 billion (this is what Catalonia published last year). This is called "solidarity", and it is what contributes to other regions in Spain to grow and benefit the country as a whole. Madrid is also a significant net contributor. On the other hand, Spain holds 55 billion in debt from Catalonia, which is unable to finance by itself on international debt markets. So numbers don't add that quickly as it has been said here.
- edko 9y agoLet me add one thing: the current Spanish Constitution was subject to a referendum in 1978. In Catalonia, it was approved by 90.46% of the votes.
- adventured 9y ago1978, shortly after the dictatorship ended, a time in which Spain was still dominated by cronies from that very dictatorship, and who proceeded to dictate the Constitution. So in 1978 Catalonia's vote mattered and you're claiming today it does not.
- ahachete 9y agoBecause it did matter in 1978, there's a law that says that 1-O voting cannot happen, it's illegal. Only all Spaniards can vote regarding the integrity and sovereignty of Spain. If you think 1978's Constitution was approved under some form of oppression, fight that, there are clear ways to change the Constitution. But do not support any illegal activities that remove rights from the rest of the people in the country. The root of the democracy is the respect to the law. Not "voting".
- edko 9y agoAre you saying Miquel Roca and Jordi Solé Tura are cronies from the dictatorship? The Constitution of 1978 was voted freely in Catalonia, and it is that very same Constitution what makes the referendum illegal.